Your best bet is to get the specific vendors tool from the vendor- they
all usually have their own link budget tool.

Marty

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Does anyone have a standard link budget calculator they would recommend?




> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:15:59 -0500
> CC: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I agree...
> 
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> Marty Dougherty
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> On Dec 10, 2007, at 10:25 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> il.net> wrote:
> 
> > I'd go 80 GHz over 60 GHz any day...  better RF performance.
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake VanDewater" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results
> >
> >
> > Has anyone worked with the 80GHz licensed or 60GHz unlicensed gear
> > from BridgeWave?  They claim to be able to get the license work done

> > pretty cheap in roughly 5 days.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> To: wireless@wispa.org
> >> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results
> >> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:47:13 -0600
> >>
> >> Hello Cameron,
> >>
> >> As good as Alvarion gear is or may be, it is still best effort gear
> >> and not
> >> committed rate.  Many factors will play into what an end user will

> >> actually
> >> be able to produce across Alvarion gear.
> >>
> >> If you are looking for a committed rate backhaul you need to look
> >> at the
> >> Trango GigaLINK gear again.  Completely different class of hardware

> >> than the
> >> VL backhaul products.  Yes, it will cost more, but the saying holds

> >> true;
> >> you get what you pay for.  Your 3mile link is a cake walk for 18GHz

> >> and if
> >> you have the tower space for 6' antennas the 6GHz GigaLINK is  
> >> perfect for
> >> your 20 mile link.
> >>
> >> BTW Ralph, our tests on the bench with VL between two MikroTik 3GHz
> >> routers
> >> was decent in HDX.  Problem we saw was went you started pushing  
> >> data heavily
> >> in both directions the link all but fell apart.  Not what you need

> >> to have
> >> happen on a critical backhaul.  <grin>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of ralph
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:12 PM
> >> To: 'WISPA General List'
> >> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results
> >>
> >> Funny you should ask. I tested a B-100 going 500 feet with Qcheck a
> >> couple
> >> of days ago and got only 38 Mb.
> >> I'm not sure if Qcheck reads out correctly or if I have to double  
> >> it- I was
> >> in a hurry.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:12 PM
> >> To: wireless@wispa.org
> >> Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I am in the need of upgrading some backhauls. We are currently 
> >> using Alvarion AUVL units with a SU-54-BD. According to Alvarion,
this
> >> link is
> >> only capable of 16mbit each way (Alvarion, please call it a 32mbit

> >> radio.)
> >> We have looked into results on users who use Alvarion B100, Trango

> >> Link
> >> 45, etc..
> >>
> >> We are open to all options...As long is it works very well. The
> >> link is
> >> about 3 miles, but we have another link that is causing the need  
> >> for the
> >> upgrade that is about 20 miles.
> >>
> >> Trango has licensed gear in the 6ghz and 18ghz line that is very 
> >> impressive, but just too expensive for us right now.
> >>
> >> I would like to know if people are using B100 what is the up/down 
> >> max throughput that you have seen? 50/50? etc.. Are you running 
> >> VoIP over this? Alvarion claims 1000 concurrent calls over this
link, i'm
> >> sure many
> >> of you have not even dented this number.
> >>
> >> I am growing to be a big fan of Trango, but have been well, but 
> >> their packet per seconds is a lot less than Alvarion B gear at
almost
> >> 40,000
> >> compared to trango at around 10,000.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> I man in dire need of a lot of bandwidth, distance and no spectrum
> >> to put
> >> it....
> >>
> >> -Cameron
> >>
> >>
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