I admit that I'm biased against Mikrotik.  It's good for what it is,
but it's value is primarily in its price / flexibility.  It's not
exactly...telco/carrier grade, or however you want to put it.  It's
fine as edge gear, but, not what I'd put in a core role like this.

Perhaps in terms of getting it up and running, you may be quicker with
something that you know and have a good feel for--ie intel hardware
running Mikrotik.  However, in terms of reliability, uptime, and
scalability, (and I'd assume configuration options) Redback is the way
to go.  If you want something that is a little more flexible, go Cisco
(but, you'd pay more for comparable performance).  Price wise,
Redback's are very attractive and very easy to get spare equipment
for.

Plus, you get _good_ hardware.  Not "throw CPU cycles at it and keep
some extra boxes in the closet for when it chokes good"; I mean "swap
out failed power supplies / Ethernet cards / CPUs without any
downtime" sort of good.  Using PCs / Mikrotik is good when   you can't
get your hands on good gear at a reasonable cost.  That's not the case
in this situation...

-Clint Ricker
Kentnis Technologies

ps...Please don't turn this into a flame war :).  I realize people
here love Mikrotik, and it has its purposes.  However, in terms of
field tested performance and reliability for PPPoE, Mikrotik is a PC
based platform that has relatively few PPPoE deployments running under
relatively light loads whereas Redback had a really large install base
for high volume PPPoE termination and generally proved itself to be a
very solid and scalable platform.


On Feb 7, 2008 8:40 PM, Eric Muehleisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Redback is untouchable in terms of PPPoE aggregation. Cisco is really
> the only other Router out there that is of Redback's caliber. We
> currently terminate close to 15,000 subscribers using a Redback SE 400.
> Attached is our current CPU usage.
>
>
>
> -Eric
>
>
> rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
> > All
> >
> > I'm in the process of moving over to another upstream provider.  I'm
> > working with them closely to get service to my county PUD system that
> > uses pppoe tunnels for virtually  all end user connections.   ( I know
> > that I can get a vlan, but the cost is prohibitive at the moment)
> >
> > So, I'm their first beta tester in my area and they have this used
> > Redback router.  First there were problems that were to be solved with
> > a firmware upgrade, now they have a hardware failure without a spare.
> >  I'm not familiar with this router at all, but discussed it with their
> > sysadmin.
> >
> > Apparently the need is for something that can handle 2000 sessions and
> > has full 100Mbps NICs and can support that speed. I'm not a pppoe
> > expert, but would a decent PC, with 4/8GB of RAM and mikrotik SW
> > installed handle something like this???  Butch?  or other MT experts?
> >  Or is this requirement way out of the MT league?
> >
> > For my own reasons, I want to get them going, promptly!  Any
> > suggestions are greatly appreciated!!
> >
> > Marshall
> > Rabbit Meadows Technology
> >
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