I just ran across this article: http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6546054.html
The National Association of Broadcasters<http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6545858.html>said Friday that the news that the Federal Communications Commission would no longer test a Microsoft<http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6539682.html>device being used to determine the feasibility of sharing digital-TV spectrum with unlicensed wireless devices was the third strike against the devices, while defenders of the devices said it was all part of the testing process. "In baseball, it's three strikes and you're out," NAB spokesman Dennis Wharton <http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6544336.html>said Friday of the news that the Microsoft device had "unexpectedly shut down," as the NAB said Microsoft had characterized it. "How many strikes does Microsoft get? If they can't get the device to work in the lab, how are they going to get it to work in the real world?" The NAB pointed out that the FCC's decision not to test the device followed a power failure for an earlier Microsoft device, which Microsoft itself withdrew from testing<http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6531144.html>, and the FCC's initial testing that found the devices caused interference and did not sufficiently sense the presence of TV signals and wireless microphones. The Wireless Innovation Alliance<http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6531144.html>, which represents computer companies backing the devices, said the "three strikes" metaphor was a red herring. "This is not a pass/fail proposition," alliance spokesman Brian Peters said. "The goal of this testing is not to certify any final consumer 'device' or even identify one approach as better than another." He maintained that Microsoft's device "produced valuable information for engineers at the FCC," although he added that it was "unfortunate that the device will no longer be tested." However, there are a number of test devices [including Motorola] still providing the FCC with the information it needs to produce effective guidelines for the development of white-space technology, and testing should continue as planned, he said. Google <http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6544227.html> proposed what it said is a compromise plan for sharing the band, but the NAB and wireless-microphone makers, which also use the spectrum at issue, rejected it. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Victoria, > > Thank you for the link to the Wireless Innovation Alliance. I just > surfed their website and read their information. > <http://wirelessinnovationalliance.org/> > > I think the battle for use of Television White Space will involve > several main players. > > 1) The *incumbent AT&T/Verizon* broadband/cellphone monopoly. They > appear to want this spectrum to be auctioned, a process that will result > in them preserving their domination of the broadband industry by > excluding anyone else from having enough usable, affordable spectrum to > provide wide-ranging wireless broadband. > > > 2) I'm not sure what the *large cable companies* (Time-Warner; Cox, > etc.) want. They may decide to lobby for auctioned and licensed spectrum > thereby excluding current WISPs from the Television White Spaces or they > may decide that they want Television White Space to be free > (un-auctioned) so they can deploy their own wireless networks without > having to bid against ATT/Verizon. > > > 3) *WISPs* who want free or low-cost access to long-range spectrum to > deploy new networks and serve more people, especially rural residents. > > > 4) The *Wireless Innovation Alliance* whose positions and desires I'm > still learning about. On the one hand they appear to be supporting > outdoor broadband wireless but there are examples of distortion, > mis-statements and hype on their website. You can pick out your own > favorite examples by reading the information on their "Fact Check" page - > > < > http://wirelessinnovationalliance.org/index.cfm?objectid=524D9F79-1D09-317F-BB70958F7B6D859F > > > > > For broadband access, they appear to be pushing "mesh" (or as I call > them "mess") networks. Nowhere did I see mention of point-to-multipoint > networks. (If I missed it, I hope somebody will point it out to me). > > > 5) The *IEEE 802.22 standards group* <http://www.ieee802.org/22/> the > Working Group on Wireless Regional Area Networks ("WRANs") that is > working to create technical standards for license-free regional wireless > networks. > > > It appears to me that the main arguments for TV White Space spectrum use > may come down to: > > 1) Auctioned vs. Not Auctioned > > 2) Technical arguments about how to avoid interference to licensed > television broadcasters. The outcome of those arguments will determine > what type of unlicensed devices will be allowed in this spectrum. > > The use of Television White Space is an issue that every WISP should be > following. I expect that WISPA is going to need to be in touch with some > or all of the above groups because without enough usable affordable > spectrum the WISP industry will wither and die. > > jack > > > Victoria Proffer wrote: > > The Wireless Innovative Alliance (http://wirelessinnovationalliance.org/) > is > > also against the licensing of this spectrum. Their members consist of > > Microsoft, Google, HP, Dell, etc. They are actively lobbing against it > this > > and wanting the white space to become unlicensed. > > > > This could be a great organization for WISPA to have an alliance with. > > > > Victoria > > St. Louis Broadband > > www.stlbroadband.com > > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Anthony Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> You show that value by the economic impact of every wifi, microwave, > >> wireless phone, invisible dog fence ever sold and the tax revenue > >> generated from those items. You also show how 2.4ghz is utilized vs > EBS > >> or BBS spectrum, or any other spectrum for that matter. > >> > >> Anthony Will > >> Broadband Corp. > >> http://www.broadband-mn.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Tom DeReggi wrote: > >> > >>> AMEN, Jack. > >>> > >>> And that is the message we need to get to Congress, FCC, and more > >>> importantly the Press. > >>> > >>> There is no better proof, than the 700Mhz auction, to what happens > when > >>> > >> it > >> > >>> goes to Auction. > >>> Save the WhiteSpaces, is about preserving the American way of Free > >>> Enterprise for small business, Enabling Competition and Choice for > >>> consumers.. > >>> > >>> The tough problem is argueing why the government can fairly give it > >>> > >> away, > >> > >>> after equivellent valued spectrum was just sold for Billions. > >>> Governement is big on consistency and equal treatment. > >>> > >>> Does anyone have any stats on how much revenue the FCC brought in for > >>> Licensed Part 101 over the years, so far? > >>> I'm just wondering what arguement could be made for alternate > Licensing > >>> scemes. > >>> How can we show the Billions of value, that consumers would gain, if > it > >>> > >> were > >> > >>> Unlicenced? > >>> > >>> Tom DeReggi > >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:43 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: CTIA urges FCC to license -- and auction -- > TV > >>> white spaces: Daily Update > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Thanks for the update. This link might be a little easier for some to > >>>> follow. > >>>> > >>>> < > >>>> > >> > http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/FREE/120719096/1007 > >> > >>>> Of course the telco incumbents who now own the cellular "wireless" > >>>> industry want to auction the TV white space. They just snagged the > 700 > >>>> MHz spectrum because they know how to borrow billions of dollars to > win > >>>> licenses at auction. > >>>> > >>>> Licensing the TV white space would give AT&T and Verizon a total lock > >>>> > >> on > >> > >>>> all the remaining spectrum that the "real" WISP industry could use to > >>>> compete with AT&T and Verizon. Auctioning this spectrum could well > >>>> > >> spell > >> > >>>> the end of the "real" WISP business. > >>>> > >>>> What is the "real" WISP business??? It is WISPs as we know them > today, > >>>> the broadband wireless pioneers who proved that wireless broadband > >>>> > >> would > >> > >>>> really work to deliver Internet access. AT&T and Verizon consider > >>>> themselves as broadband wireless providers also (3G is certainly > >>>> broadband wireless). They just don't call themselves "WISPs". The > >>>> incumbent telco/cellular monopolists would just love use their big > >>>> > >> bucks > >> > >>>> and corporate lobbying power to finally kill their off their > >>>> > >> competitors > >> > >>>> who legitimized the broadband wireless industry in the first place. > >>>> > >>>> jack > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Fyi. 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