There were no noise issues during the test. It has been our finding  
that you can't properly emulate a DS1 over fixed wireless if there is  
any significant noise.

-Matt

On Apr 25, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:
> What kind of floor noise did you have during your test? That's my  
> biggest
> issue here is noise.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> On
> Behalf Of Matt Liotta
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:31 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] LigoWave proprietary PtP (was Re: Radio
> VendorSuggestions)
>
> Straight 802.11a systems do not pass. A modified MAC seems to be  
> required.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Apr 25, 2008, at 5:00 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> Matt, have you run this tests in similar 802.11a based systems?
>> Mikrotik? OSBridge? StarOS?
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Matt Liotta
>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 6:36 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] LigoWave proprietary PtP (was Re: Radio Vendor
>> Suggestions)
>>
>> Our office is in the same city as Deliberant, so we have been able to
>> test their new proprietary PtP radios quite extensively. We don't  
>> test
>> for raw throughput; we focus on consistent payload with low latency,
>> low jitter and the ability to handle a lot of PPS. While I don't  
>> claim
>> to no the limits of their radios, I can tell you that we setup an
>> emulated DS1 (CESoPSN) through their radios with a testset running
>> quasi. The test completed without errors during a 30min run. The test
>> subjected to the radios to 2000pps aggregate with an IP payload size
>> of 192k. Latency was as expected given the distance we were testing  
>> (1
>> mile) and jitter averaged 0.7ms. The performance was in excess of  
>> what
>> we have seen with 802.11a-based radios, which I believe speaks
>> positively to the MAC changes they made. Again, we didn't test to see
>> what they were capable of; only that they would meet our minimum
>> requirements, which many radios do not.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:
>>> The 70Mbps is a 40Mhz channel.  We get around 40Mbps on a 20MHz
>>> channel.
>>> The PTP product is not an 11a mac as that has been rewritten by us  
>>> to
>>> improve performance, especially over distance and to allow for  
>>> better
>>> 2-way traffic handling, among other things.
>>>
>>> 70Mbps over distance (and higher) is possible with MIMO technologies
>>> in a 20MHz channel though.
>>>
>>> -Hal
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Vendor Suggestions
>>> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:45:52 -0400
>>>
>>> I wouldn't count on any 802.11a hitting 70 mbps in a 20 mhz channel
>>> ....
>>> maybe on a 40 mhz channel if you do some atheros tricks, if you have
>>> the cpu power and if you have enough fade margin ....
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Jason Hensley
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:40 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Vendor Suggestions
>>>
>>> Ligowave is real close.  2.4, 5.8 in the same box.  900MHz solution.
>>> 70MBps
>>> PtP, but not sure distance on that.  5.3 and 5.4 are coming very  
>>> soon
>>> from what I hear but don't know that for sure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:06 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Vendor Suggestions
>>>
>>> If you discover a radio that will do what you are looking for here
>>> (ptmp
>>> assumed) please let me know.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Zachery Wolfinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:00 PM
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Radio Vendor Suggestions
>>>
>>>
>>>> Our company has used a single radio vendor exclusively for the last
>>>> 6 years. My VP has instructed me to start trials with other  
>>>> vendors.
>>>> Who do you all suggest for:
>>>>
>>>> Unlicensed
>>>> 60+ Mbps
>>>> up to 25 mile links
>>>> 5.4 / 5.8GHz (same vendor should also offer 5.3 GHz for shorter
>>>> links)
>>>
>>>> same vendor should also offer  a 900MHz solution for neighborhood
>>>> coverage (2-3 mile radius)
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Zak Wolfinger
>>>> IT Director - Cyberlink
>>>> 888-293-3693 Ext 4357
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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