Travis, because there is an element of control that you lose when you 
outsource. I have a client that got really upset when an email that was 
addressed to 3 companies only made it to one employee. Long story short, 
Frontbridge saw that the email came into their servers, but only one 
copy went out to 1 of the companies employees. This took *several* hours 
and 3 different Frontbridge employees to find out.  If this client had 
been using a Barracuda, then there wouldn't have been a problem. Before 
you start to flame me, I know that you aren't supposed to use email in 
this manner, i.e. mission critical, time sensitive Purchase orders from 
Asia to the US, but this client did, and they were furious. Another 
reason I have a problem is that both Frontbridge and Postini *require* a 
3 year commitment, and you may not have to pay up front, but once you 
sign on, they have you for 3 years. I have a BIG problem with any 
business that operates like that. In this instance, the cleint is now 
stuck with Frontbridge for 2 1/2 years, and their attitude when asked 
about a refund was "tough, you agreed to a 3 year term, and we have your 
money."

John Thomas


Travis Johnson wrote:
> And on another thought... with that much junk mail, why not use a 
> service that blocks the spam BEFORE it uses your bandwidth and 
> resources? Like Postini... or others.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Frank Muto wrote:
>> Just a thought, unless you have a 600 or better unit, you are running 
>> 1x10/100 Ethernet on 100-400 units vs. 2xGigabit on to 
>> 600-1000 units, IMO creating a bottleneck even with low to moderate user 
>> accounts. This is where most of our cross-over sales 
>> are from, in the lower model units. With the amount of junk email flying 
>> around out there, even active user accounts under 
>> 250 are pulling in substantial amounts of junk and direct harvest attacks.
>>
>>
>> Frank Muto
>> www.secureemailplus.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
>>
>>
>>   
>>> Kurt,
>>>
>>>  What firmware are you running?
>>> How many emails are you filtering?
>>> Have you done a "hard reboot" on it lately?
>>> How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily
>>> Traffic graph/email that tell you this)
>>>
>>> I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam
>>> that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for months)
>>> by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours.
>>>
>>> I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis
>>> this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, Freeside...etc)
>>> for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are crossed
>>> and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a
>>> report on how things are going.
>>>
>>> Mac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM
>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com
>>>> <http://www.untangle.com/>  it is free to install on any server. I have
>>>> a
>>>> Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I
>>>> don't
>>>> even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so
>>>> un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change
>>>> pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only
>>>> got
>>>> <200 email addresses and its rated for 500.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth the $500 year
>>>> subscription when you can't even log into it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>> WAVELINC
>>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>> 419-562-6405
>>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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