Unless you know something I don't, all the quotes we have received from 
Postini require a 3 year commitment, with a minimum of 1 years payment 
up front.

For my client that has 60,000 + emails coming into his Barracuda, his 
Exchange 2003 server is happily running along.

John Thomas


Frank Muto wrote:
> Since when does Postini require a 3-year commitment? IMO there is more to the 
> Frontbridge saga and even Barracuda can not fix 
> the hiccups of MS Exchange.
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> Frank Muto
> Postini - Google Apps Distributor
> www.SecureEmailPlus.com
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
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>   
>> Travis, because there is an element of control that you lose when you
>> outsource. I have a client that got really upset when an email that was
>> addressed to 3 companies only made it to one employee. Long story short,
>> Frontbridge saw that the email came into their servers, but only one
>> copy went out to 1 of the companies employees. This took *several* hours
>> and 3 different Frontbridge employees to find out.  If this client had
>> been using a Barracuda, then there wouldn't have been a problem. Before
>> you start to flame me, I know that you aren't supposed to use email in
>> this manner, i.e. mission critical, time sensitive Purchase orders from
>> Asia to the US, but this client did, and they were furious. Another
>> reason I have a problem is that both Frontbridge and Postini *require* a
>> 3 year commitment, and you may not have to pay up front, but once you
>> sign on, they have you for 3 years. I have a BIG problem with any
>> business that operates like that. In this instance, the cleint is now
>> stuck with Frontbridge for 2 1/2 years, and their attitude when asked
>> about a refund was "tough, you agreed to a 3 year term, and we have your
>> money."
>>
>> John Thomas
>>
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>     
>>> And on another thought... with that much junk mail, why not use a
>>> service that blocks the spam BEFORE it uses your bandwidth and
>>> resources? Like Postini... or others.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Frank Muto wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Just a thought, unless you have a 600 or better unit, you are running 
>>>> 1x10/100 Ethernet on 100-400 units vs. 2xGigabit on 
>>>> to
>>>> 600-1000 units, IMO creating a bottleneck even with low to moderate user 
>>>> accounts. This is where most of our cross-over 
>>>> sales
>>>> are from, in the lower model units. With the amount of junk email flying 
>>>> around out there, even active user accounts 
>>>> under
>>>> 250 are pulling in substantial amounts of junk and direct harvest attacks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frank Muto
>>>> www.secureemailplus.com
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Kurt,
>>>>>
>>>>>  What firmware are you running?
>>>>> How many emails are you filtering?
>>>>> Have you done a "hard reboot" on it lately?
>>>>> How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily
>>>>> Traffic graph/email that tell you this)
>>>>>
>>>>> I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam
>>>>> that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for 
>>>>> months)
>>>>> by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis
>>>>> this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, 
>>>>> Freeside...etc)
>>>>> for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are 
>>>>> crossed
>>>>> and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a
>>>>> report on how things are going.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mac
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM
>>>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com
>>>>>> <http://www.untangle.com/>  it is free to install on any server. I have
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so
>>>>>> un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change
>>>>>> pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only
>>>>>> got
>>>>>> <200 email addresses and its rated for 500.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth the $500 year
>>>>>> subscription when you can't even log into it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>>>> WAVELINC
>>>>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>>>> 419-562-6405
>>>>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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