Then you should be working with a reseller/distributor like us. Some of the services do require an annual fee, but none that require a minimum 3-year commitment.
At 60k emails, plus using Exchange; you are at a whole different level of resources even with Barracuda, compared to the average service provider. Frank Muto Postini - Google Apps Distributor www.SecureEmailPlus.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda > Unless you know something I don't, all the quotes we have received from > Postini require a 3 year commitment, with a minimum of 1 years payment > up front. > > For my client that has 60,000 + emails coming into his Barracuda, his > Exchange 2003 server is happily running along. > > John Thomas > > > Frank Muto wrote: >> Since when does Postini require a 3-year commitment? IMO there is more to >> the Frontbridge saga and even Barracuda can not >> fix >> the hiccups of MS Exchange. >> >> >> >> >> Frank Muto >> Postini - Google Apps Distributor >> www.SecureEmailPlus.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda >> >> >> >>> Travis, because there is an element of control that you lose when you >>> outsource. I have a client that got really upset when an email that was >>> addressed to 3 companies only made it to one employee. Long story short, >>> Frontbridge saw that the email came into their servers, but only one >>> copy went out to 1 of the companies employees. This took *several* hours >>> and 3 different Frontbridge employees to find out. If this client had >>> been using a Barracuda, then there wouldn't have been a problem. Before >>> you start to flame me, I know that you aren't supposed to use email in >>> this manner, i.e. mission critical, time sensitive Purchase orders from >>> Asia to the US, but this client did, and they were furious. Another >>> reason I have a problem is that both Frontbridge and Postini *require* a >>> 3 year commitment, and you may not have to pay up front, but once you >>> sign on, they have you for 3 years. I have a BIG problem with any >>> business that operates like that. In this instance, the cleint is now >>> stuck with Frontbridge for 2 1/2 years, and their attitude when asked >>> about a refund was "tough, you agreed to a 3 year term, and we have your >>> money." >>> >>> John Thomas >>> >>> >>> Travis Johnson wrote: >>> >>>> And on another thought... with that much junk mail, why not use a >>>> service that blocks the spam BEFORE it uses your bandwidth and >>>> resources? Like Postini... or others. >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> Microserv >>>> >>>> Frank Muto wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just a thought, unless you have a 600 or better unit, you are running >>>>> 1x10/100 Ethernet on 100-400 units vs. 2xGigabit >>>>> on >>>>> to >>>>> 600-1000 units, IMO creating a bottleneck even with low to moderate user >>>>> accounts. This is where most of our cross-over >>>>> sales >>>>> are from, in the lower model units. With the amount of junk email flying >>>>> around out there, even active user accounts >>>>> under >>>>> 250 are pulling in substantial amounts of junk and direct harvest attacks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Frank Muto >>>>> www.secureemailplus.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:13 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Kurt, >>>>>> >>>>>> What firmware are you running? >>>>>> How many emails are you filtering? >>>>>> Have you done a "hard reboot" on it lately? >>>>>> How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily >>>>>> Traffic graph/email that tell you this) >>>>>> >>>>>> I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam >>>>>> that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for >>>>>> months) >>>>>> by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis >>>>>> this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, >>>>>> Freeside...etc) >>>>>> for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are >>>>>> crossed >>>>>> and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a >>>>>> report on how things are going. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mac >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM >>>>>>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com >>>>>>> <http://www.untangle.com/> it is free to install on any server. I have >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so >>>>>>> un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change >>>>>>> pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only >>>>>>> got >>>>>>> <200 email addresses and its rated for 500. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth the $500 year >>>>>>> subscription when you can't even log into it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>> WAVELINC >>>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>>> 419-562-6405 >>>>>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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