What is your opinion about the greatness of WiMax based upon? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP
>I believe that WiMax is great... greater than equipment we currently use. > I just don't use it at this time because of the cost. I also don't buy > into > a lot of the hype people (press, manufacturers, vendors, others) are > pushing. I had a project that required 10 meg of synchronous, committed > bandwidth per customer. I was told (by more than one group) because of > the > WiMax magic, I could put 2 - 3 customers on equipment capable of 23 megs. > Sorry, you simply cannot put 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound box, no matter > the magic. Other than Mikrotik, only the AN-80i would have been worth it. > > I do appreciate the FCC's requirement of equipment getting along with > dissimilar equipment. Who knows when we'll have another Canopy or Tsunami > introduced that just doesn't play well with others. > > > ---------- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:38 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP > > >>I do not think we should build our networks for the "sole purpose of >> suckering, err, selling to someone else". I do believe that I want >> anything I build to have value in the event I do sell. That is not >> "suckering" anyone. Why not build something that holds value or >> appreciates in value? I know a future plan for WISPs to build WiMax >> networks in 3.65 would result in better networks, better valuations >> for WISPs and better economies of scale. >> >> Leaning on 802.11 further is just not the plan we should be using for >> new bands and new opportunities like we have in 3650. We have a chance >> to build something greater than we have now. WiMax is what the rest of >> the world is already using in the 3.4 thru 3.8 GHz band. Do any of you >> think it is smarter for us to abandon the global scale afforded to us >> if we adopt WiMax in 3.65? I am surprised more of you are not speaking >> up and saying you agree with this philosophy. Dividing the camp on >> this will not help us as an industry. >> >> I would like to see this group, for once, accept that we need to do >> something together, as a group, for the common good. I think this is >> that opportunity. I see little reason for us to take any other course >> of action in 3.65 GHz. WISPs need to do something as a group to help >> our industry. WiMax in 3.65 is that logical step for us to work >> together and reach some scale and some value. >> >> This is not about "suckering" anyone or being "stuck in a rut". This >> is a chance for us to move to the next level. It is almost >> embarrassing to me that we are actually behind the rest of the world >> here in the US when it comes to this band. WiMax is a serious platform >> with many advantages over anything else we have built and used. The >> light licensed opportunities in 3.65 are an incredible experiment that >> we need to show success in. If we choose WiMax and adopt this as the >> platform for 3.65 I believe we will advance our entire industry to a >> higher level of funding opportunities, operational reliability, more >> service offerings, etc. >> Scriv >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:09 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I know that a certain number of us ARE going to build a network for the >>> sole >>> purpose of suckering...errr, selling it to someone else. >>> >>> Now, I have severe ethical disagreements with this notion. It reminds >>> me >>> of "flipping houses" or "speculative oil investing", perhaps? >>> >>> Now, to build a business SOLELY for the purpose of selling for a huge >>> chunk >>> of money to someone larger, of planned consolidation seems >>> self-defeating. >>> yes, you might profit, but wha have you really done productively? >>> >>> Still, there are many of us who are NOT intending to "build to sell". >>> We're not in the business of flipping customers to someone else. In >>> that >>> case, overspending for the return on your dollar makes little sense. >>> I'm >>> not sure if ANY hardware platform makes sense in this industry. If we >>> run >>> the numbers, does it actually havea positive return? I suspect not. >>> >>> Still, for those of us who aer NOT in the business of polishing up a >>> turd >>> to >>> sell to someone else ( You have no idea how long I've waited to use that >>> term, since I read it a few years ago!), the investment and prices >>> don't >>> make any real sense... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> <insert witty tagline here> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:10 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP >>> >>> >>> A number of WISPS are moving to this platform as they find that >>>> the higher end equipment is worth more on a buyout. >>>> >>>> Lets put it this way. If you have a network to sell, how much more do >>>> you >>>> think you will get if you have Cisco instead of Mikrotik? Nothing >>>> against >>>> them, but the quality of your infrastructure is heavily weighed during >>>> a >>>> buyout. If you don't agree, check the many spam's on this and other >>>> lists >>>> from the guys buying networks. Some won't even look at you if you >>>> don't >>>> have Canopy or better equipment. >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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