Charles, I use tranzeo for my 802.11b/g clients since about 2 years ago or so. I am now deploying the NS 2 as I can.get units and where approiate. I will still use the tranzeo cpq-15, (think it replaced by the sl2 now), and the cpq-19 as needed.
Charles Wu wrote: > So, seeing the activity on this latest thread regarding Nanostations has > peaked my interest...so, to satisfy my own curiosity, I decided to do some > research on Nanostations > > (I'm making a lot of assumptions here, so please correct me if I'm wrong, as > I'm a relative newbie to this segment of the market) > > Now, it seems to me that the Nanostation, although cheaper in price, due to > being limited to running CSMA/CA, does not do a good job in competing with > the Motorola Canopy / Trango / Alvarions of the world...people who buy those > products are paying for the extra R&D effort put into developing a more > "WISP-focused" solution than just "plain-ol" Wi-Fi > I'd agree with this. I don't use that gear because an ap of mine might only have 6 clients and I can not justify the high AP costs and high CPE costs. > That said, getting into the world of Wi-Fi CPE - for anyone who is not > running a proprietary protocol, it seems that the current market leader is > Tranzeo, however, looking at their site, it seems that their "value-line" > (SL2) product still goes for about $130 and doesn't even have ½ the features > of the Nanostation and AirOS > IMHO, correct. But for light duty residental users, they work well and allow us to keep the install costs down. > If you're running Mikrotik in 802.11x (WiFi) mode, by the time you factor in > the cost of the card, antenna, enclosure, power supply, you're back at that > $150 / CPE level > I agree, and because of that, the crossroads has no appeal for me, yet. I am considering them as a path to netstream on 2.4GHz to replace my turbocell stuff, as most all of my turbocell gear was assembled by me. > With the Nanostation at $89.95, why would anyone deploying a 802.11x-based > WISP buy anything else? > Where its antenna gain is enought, I won't. Where I need more gain, I'll use tranzeo > -Charles > > ------------------------------------------- > WiNOG Wireless Roadshows > Coming to a City Near You > http://www.winog.com > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 8:59 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations > > You know, > > It doesn't need to be a full port of mikrotik either... > > It needs to be a client. 802.11abg, netstream, bridging, basic NAT, dhcp > client/server, ppp client, and interface queues would be enough for most of > us. > > A lot of things could be removed to maybe get it down to the flash size > needed. > > Just a thought. > > Travis Johnson wrote: > Mikrotik would make MORE money by porting ROS to the Nanostation than they > currently make on the Crossroads or RB411 (which we are buying hundreds per > month of now). > > If it's a business decision, MT would be smart to port the software ASAP. > > Travis > > Matt Ferre wrote: > > One more note. Mikrotik has long history of introducing 'their' > > version of hardware that was previously sold by UBNT and made the > > momentum. > > > > First there was SR5. Then there came Mikrotik R52H, which is far worse > > in terms of performance and quality (though 50% cheaper) but just at > > that time became the high power card of choice for all MT based > > applications. Just at that time you could see MT support posts on > > their forum starting to suggest swapping SR5 to R52H if you only had > > any problems and that move alone was magicaly supposed to cure all > > your problems. > > > > Then there came RB133 - a cheap CPE replacement for LS5 and/or LS2. At > > that time LS2/LS5 became a no-no for MT use too. > > > > Then again, there is a Crossroads which is brand new and strangely > > similiar to LS2. That's obviously a coincidence too. > > > > And no, I am not saying Mikrotik is evil. They are just a profit > > oriented company with clear idea how to explore their market share and > > having a really solid businessplan. And just as you will never see > > Microsoft supporting Linux type software, you will never see Mikrotik > > supporting NS2/5. Though it's likely you may see Mikrotik version of > > hardware pretty much the same as NS2/5 sometime soon. > > > > > > > > On 7/21/08, Sam Tetherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > While you may be right on their focus being RB+ROS. I don't understand > > why they would not want to sell a $40 license on a piece of hardware > > giving them a theoretical profit of close to $40. Hardware has to be > > manufactured and shipped and warrantied to some extent. If they are > > already writing the software to go with their hardware, why not pick up > > the extra sale on someone elses hardware at next to no addtional cost. > > > > People buying the NS2/5 are doing it from a cost standpoint. Even with > > an additional $40 for a software license it would be 110 for a compact > > unit with integrated antenna, dual polarity and a POE. That is $10 less > > than just the crossroads board with no POE, antenna or enclosure. It > > would cost another 50% for a rootenna and POE. > > > > If they worked with Ubiquiti they would have a chance to own the lowend > > market and finally have certified gear out there. The upgrade path > > would be perfect for their hardware. They would sell the AP hardware as > > well as higher end CPEs for business and backhauls and still make > > $40/CPE on the cheap end. And the operator has a 100% end to end ROS > > network. I wonder if they are making $40 on a crossroads after > > manufacture and shipping. I really don't see the downside to this, > > especially if the hardware is similar to the crossroads and ubiquiti > > really expressed and interest in working with them. > > > > Well, if MT doesn't want the business, I wonder if Lonnie is interested... > > > > Sam Tetherow > > Sandhills Wireless > > > > Matt Ferre wrote: > > > > Looking at the posts on the Mikrotik forum I'd say Mikrotik doesn't > > exactly like Ubiquiti. And from business point of view I can clearly > > see why. > > > > Who exactly would benefit from porting Mikrotik to NS5? Mikrotik? No, > > their Routerboard sales would drop and as we see during last two years > > they are more into selling Routerboard + Routeros package than the > > software alone. Ubiquiti would be the main beneficiary of that > > situation and that's why you're not going to see it happen. Never > > ever. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > > > > > > > > Oswave says there is no NS2/5 support and will not be. DD-WRT has > > support. That is a shame since ros/sos seam not to have plans to > > support them. I wonder how much effort/money it would be to get > > Ubiquity to solicit a firmware from someone? > > > > > > My understanding (this is "friend of a friend" quality info) is that > > MT and Ubiquity DID have discussions about the NS platform. It is > > not something that is going to happen "out of the box", however with > > a 16M flash that Travis mentioned, perhaps it is something that > > could be done. 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