Chuck - why would that make a bit of difference?  KD versus KA?

I never said ham radio is useless, I just said its dying.  The homebrew
activity is just a shadow of what it used to be.  Most of the traffic on
any of the bands will put you to sleep.

And I would take issue with your claim that no other communications
medium can make that claim.  I reach down below my desk and pull
out my Micom, and I have voice, data, fax capabilities WITH ALE
capability.   On HF.  With the tuner I can load up a wet string.  Oh,
did I mention, it is not a HAM radio, although capable.  We use it on
commercial and federal frequencies.

And I seem to remember that during Katrina wireless internet lived
in various configurations, and provided invaluable service.



Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction


> KD4RME if you were KA4RME you might have a different perspective.
>
> Katrina proves the worth of ham radio.  Give me a 20 and 40 meter rig, and 
> I
> will never ever be out of communication irrespective of where you place me
> on the planet.  NO OTHER communications medium can make that claim.
>
> Everyone on this list wants more spectrum.  Broadcasters and Hams, move 
> out
> of the way because we are more important, right?  To heck with the fact 
> they
> were there first and are actually licensed.  Who cares that all of the
> original research in RF was done by hams.
>
> Wonder how many WISP operators can pass an extra class (or 1st phone) FCC
> exam?
> If the WISPs of the nation conducted themselves in a manner similar to the
> ethos of most hams we wouldn't have these problems.
>
> (former KA7WMG)
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Blake Bowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:54:01
>> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
>>
>>
>> And the ARC?  Spew....
>>
>> And amateur radio is dying.  Its a fact.  The last one
>> left needs to shut off the lights.
>>
>> Just look at the hamfests.  (I call them the land of the
>> great unwashed)  Numbers are diminishing all the time.
>>
>> Springfield MO just announced they are canceling theirs
>> this year.
>>
>> And yes, I can say it.  KD4RME
>>
>>
>> Don't take your organs to heaven,
>> heaven knows we need them down here!
>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
>>
>>
>>> OK, to warm things up, I proffer the following:
>>>
>>> Ham radio is essential to the emergency communications network of the
>>> planet.  When all else fails, hams and the American Red Cross can always
>>> get
>>> business done.  At 5.7 GHz, the distance record is 3,982 km.  At 903 MHz
>>> the
>>> distance record is 4,064 km.  They bounce signals off the moon and 
>>> launch
>>> their own satellites.
>>>
>>> Ham emergency communications networks are tested each day.  Much of our
>>> progress in microwave propagation and antenna work has been done by 
>>> hams.
>>>
>>> They were here first and will be here last.  Pardon the image but we are
>>> the
>>> ones farting in their phone booth.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jerry
>>>>
>>>> You may get an initial injunction but as a Part 15 user you don't have
>>>> much in the line of rights as far as federal law is concerned unless 
>>>> you
>>>> can show "willful" interference from he ham.
>>>>
>>>>>From a business point of view anything is possible in court
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately amateur radio becomes pretty moot on high freqs (30 Mhz
>>>> and
>>>> up). Its amazing that a business csn suffer bcause someone wants to see
>>>> if
>>>> they can talk accross the state on spectrum that is meant to talk less
>>>> than 10 miles. Especially when they can get a Skype account or call the
>>>> other ham on the phone. General conversation amateur radio really
>>>> accomplishes nothing these days
>>>>
>>>> Wow.....  That last paragraph should get the list warmed up.  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Jerry Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:17
>>>> To: Jerry Richardson<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; WISPA General
>>>> List<wireless@wispa.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Motorola Canopy User
>>>> Group<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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