Its sort of like the grants I get for my Fire Department.

I don't think it is the federal governments place to fund
the fire service BUT as long as those grant programs
are out there,  it would be a disservice to my patrons
for me NOT to take advantage of them.

As long as the USF money is there, then the application
that Chuck mentioned is a damned good application.  I
agree with you also though, it is often misused.

Brians statement,

>> If you are running a hundred miles of fiber for 30 people you are not
>> right in the head.......

was just misinformed babble.

If the USF funds are there, or any such program, so that we can get
those 30 folks out there in the middle of nowhere reliable service, than I
feel like it would be a disservice not to pursue those funds, and to provide
that service.

If it weren't for programs like that, much of the rural world would
still not have telephone service, or electric for that matter.



Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!


> Just because the government will pay for it in no way makes it a good idea
> :-).
>
> Chuck is good at working the system as it exists for his industry.  I 
> can't
> fault him (too much) for that.  I wish I were in a similar situation.
>
> My frustration isn't that USF exists as much as it is that USF is being 
> used
> to give my competitor a government backed competitive advantage.  A huge 
> one
> at that.
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Blake Bowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!
>
>
>> Chucks business knowledge has proven to be right on so far,
>> I suspect you don't have a clue about the situation and therefore
>> posted mindless babble....
>>
>>
>> Don't take your organs to heaven,
>> heaven knows we need them down here!
>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] gotta love USF!!!!
>>
>>
>>> If you are running a hundred miles of fiber for 30 people you are not
>>> right in the head.......
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>>> It is a cost recovery mechanism.  I got audited by USAC this year to
>>> prove
>>> that the USF we receive is to cover the costs of providing the service.
>>> But
>>> think how expensive it is to run a hundred miles of fiber and put in a
>>> class
>>> 5 switch to serve 30 or 50 customers.
>>>
>>
>>
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