Sounds like you can't deploy in TVWS soon enough!
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scottie Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:32 AM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information > Butch, > > I am not downplaying your response. The problem I am seeing is that my > main competition is two rural cooperatives, the cable comp in my area is > virtually nill. The cable co's are privately owned. I am not sure how > they(cooperatives) are doing it, but they must be getting $$$ to fund > their buildouts from somewhere besides the members? I was serving areas > they were not 2 years ago, but now they are. And they are servicing them > not only with DSL but video? > > I have to BITCH about the cost of gear, or not compete. I am a mostly > Canopy shop at 900 Mhz, our area is 400 to 500 ft hills every mile or so. > So, I have had to eat much more than most would. In my area, 5.7 will > NEVER go beyond 3 miles, if it will work then. They(Co-ops) dropped their > price almost in half in the towns that they cover for 3 MB DSL to $75/mth, > I still offer 1.5MB for $90/mth and have only lost 1 business customer in > 2 years. That can show their service level? > > Although my scenario, may sound good, I am fronting all the money on these > Canopy 900 Mhz units. We lease the unit to them included in their monthly > cost. We are still in the red after 3 years. When they(Co-ops, or anyone > that owns the local loop) can buy a Stinger DSL DSLAM (for instance) that > will service 24 customers at about $1500, and DSL modems for less than > $50/cpe... What is left for us to compete? > > On top of that, they OWN the local loop to here. I have a 2XT1 from AT&T > that 2/3rds of the cost of it is local loop (to the local Co-op)at a total > cost of $1379/mth. > > So, Yes, although most Wireless MFG's build stuff for the last mile, maybe > they should look at the REAL last mile in BFE, and see what we have to > compete against, if the competition even exist? > > Just a side note....the local Co-op requires you to take their landline to > get DSL, we get %95 of our customers who do not want their POS landline > and use their cell phone, but the barriers are still there! > > Scottie > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:18:48 -0600 (CST) > >>On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>>Where has the innovation in the last few years gone?</rant> >> >>How many in this industry bitch and moan over the cost of gear? How >>many would purchase an AP at under $200 and STILL think that's too >>high? How many in this industry are willing to purchase something >>JUST BECAUSE IT IS CHEAPER? Look at how many people in this >>industry are using DSL as a transport to the Internet. >> >>Answer THOSE questions and you'll begin the see the answer to YOUR >>question. The problem isn't just "us". The "big boys" have been >>busy trying to drive pricing levels down in an attempt to "buy the >>market". And too many of "us" have decided that we have to compete >>on price alone, so we found ways to cut cost by buying cheaper gear >>(there are 2 WISPs within a 30 minute drive of my house that are >>selling service using Linksys gear for APs). There is at least 3 >>WISPs whose service would cover my house that have DSL for their >>internet connection. I'm not condemming the practice as much as I >>am attempting to illustrate WHY the innovation is leaving the >>industry. It is NOT gone. It just doesn't exist in the price range >>that MOST people are willing to pay (WISPs, that is). >> >>-- >>******************************************************************** >>* Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* >>* http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * >>* http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * >>* http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * >>******************************************************************** >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>WISPA Wants You! 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