I am currently all set. I connect to another WISP, Michwave, (Jon Langeler posts here every so often) and he is connected to norlight. So I am already on fiber. I have a 7 mile and a 19 mile hop to get this done.
Brian Mike Hammett wrote: > My whole goal is to get people to think outside of buying T1s from Ma Bell. > > I'd assume your network goes close to 131, where there's fiber to be had. > I'm not sure how close Brian's comes to 131, but if you guys can get on the > same fiber out of town, that's be great. A 20 year IRU on fiber is very cost > effective. There's a ring that goes around the Grand Rapids metro area as > well. > > I'll let you guys work out the details, but I might be able to find some more > providers in those towns. > > If I had to pay that much for bandwidth, I'd be going through the various > directories and lists calling anyone within 50 miles of the bandwidth source > asking if they want in. Depending on who all is around, maybe you can form > another company whose sole responsibility is to purchase the bandwidth and > fiber, then sell it out to the member companies. onelasvegas.com seems to > think there's all kinds of providers in the Grand Rapids - Kalamazoo area. > I'd look through that site and Matt Larsen's WISP Directory and see who all > is around and what you can arrange. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > From: Blair Davis > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:01 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs... > > > 35m to Kalamazoo, 35m to Grand Rapids, 30m to Holland. My bandwidth comes > over fiber from Grand Rapids via Holland. Used to be T1's, but I saw the > $700 T1's coming when verzion got their ruling in Texas that released them > from wholesaling requirements. I had to defy my business partner to put the > fiber in, but when the T1 renewal came up at $2250/month, up from > $1050/month, for our 3 circuits, he was glad I had. > > $200 per Mb/s per month is up to 20Mb/s. It gets better after that, but not > much. > > Brian and I have talked before. He is about 40m ESE of Grand Rapids. The > topography here and our locations preclude any easy way to share bandwidth, > but I am still looking. > > > > Mike Hammett wrote: > He is 20 miles from Kalamazoo and Kalamazoo is serviced by at least KDL, US > Signal, Level(3), Lightcore, and I believe GLC is there as well. I'm sure > there's more out there. Grand Rapids isn't far away either. > > Charter is in his hometown (yes, they sell to WISPs, even will do fiber > based BGP). > > I believe there are other WISPs within 20 miles of Kalamazoo... Brian R... > Rohrbacher .... anyway, I think he's 40 miles the other direction. Maybe > you two could go together and get a bigger pipe than either of you could get > separately and take advantage of the scale. There's at least 2 and maybe as > high as 5 WISPs using the same connection in my area.... they may all just > buy from one, but I dunno. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Harold Bledsoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:19 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs... > > Blair, > > Do you think you could do the same thing from Chicago or Detroit? You > should be able to get something in the $30~50/Mb range, maybe better if > you can shoot off of a carrier hotel roof or something. > > -Hal > > -----Original Message----- > From: RickG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs... > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:57:55 -0500 > > I've got the same issues here. I'm getting rid of my expensive T1's > and bringing in bandwidth from 30 miles away. If the usages keeps > growing, I'll employ one of the options you mention below. > -RickG > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Blair Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the things that are coming, I'm starting to wounder just how the > bandwidth/pricing model is going to have to change. > > This is likely not a big deal for you urban guys, but out here in the > rural > areas, bandwidth ain't cheap. > > A T1, 1.54Mb/s, costs me $700/month. > On my fiber, 1Mb/s costs me $200/month. > > These movie services look to run 2Mb/s. IPTV looks to run 500Kb/s per > stream. Just how much of this can our rural networks handle? > > The sat. services can't do this. The cellular providers can't do this. > > Most of us have our residential service priced in the $35-$45 range. > > It doesn't take a accountant to see that those numbers don't add up. > > Is per bit pricing the answer? Higher fixed monthly? Traffic > discrimination? 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