Brad, Sounds like my setup... What are you using for customer CPE? We use RB450's even doing MPLS on those
Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik Multi-GigE and greater throughput... (was CiscoVLAN help) I didn't want to hijack Travis's Cisco thread, but wanted to throw in my .02 regarding MikroTik as a core router. We began running MikroTik as a core router sometime back in 2004 when our Cisco VXR DS3 router started to struggle. We purchased a couple LMC DS3 NICs from Eje at Wisp-Router and haven't looked back since. It was better than three years ago when we bench tested more than 800Mbps between MikroTik routers using older Intel Pro fiber NICs and standard 32bit PCI slots. Over the years we have deployed numerous MikroTik routers with 24 or more 10/100 Interfaces, and several MikroTik routers with multiple Intel GigE Copper and Fiber Interfaces. Today our MikroTik routers have evolved to include motherboards with multiple PCIe x8 & x16 lane expansion slots, Quad core CPUs, 2Gig RAM, redundant hot-swap power supplies and multiple six port SFP NICs. This latest generation of MikroTik router we are deploying are extremely fast, flexible, cost effective and most importantly reliable. The SFP NICs allow us to easily swap Interfaces from Copper GigE to SX fiber, LX fiber, ZX Fiber...all hot-swap without requiring the router to be powered down or rebooted. The power supplies are diverse and redundant. We can lose either power feed or power module or any combination of the two and still keep the router powered up. We are currently peering with three GigE upstream providers with a fourth GigE provider being turned up this week for unprecedented capacity and diversity for an ISP our size. We are already exploring and evaluating 10GigE Interfaces as our requirements continue to increase. We have no reason to believe the MikroTik platform will not continue to deliver the exceptional performance we have become accustomed to. Every client gets a MikroTik CPE router that we own and manage regardless of the medium used (microwave, copper, fiber etc.) to deliver their data circuit. A MikroTik as a client CPE router gives us terrific flexibility and diagnostic abilities. MikroTik allows us to provide the detailed information required to identify and resolve problems at the client side quickly and efficiently. We have made countless "IT Guys" heroes in the eyes of their employers more times than I care to remember. <grin> I firmly believe we would not be where we are today, offering the level of service we are able to provide without MikroTik at the core of our network. Best, Brad -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help We are using HP Carrier Servers on our Core, Dual Xenon 2.8 Ghz, Dual PS, 2 GB Intel Nics with 3 PCIX 3 Port GB Cards for a total of 14 ports per Router Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help I answer with a question. What makes you think they couldn't do 100 megs? I believe the original PowerRouter series does 5.9 gigabits and the latest series does 8 gigabits. I don't know how strong Mikrotik's VPLS offering is, but from what I've heard, VPLS is the way to go. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:13 P To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help > How can you possibly get 100 megs with Mikrotik? > > On 12/9/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I like the "THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT"! :) Nothing wrong with that. You >> should be able to do that with some high end MTs and EoIP Tunnels though >> :) >> >> ------------------------------ >> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link >> Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 >> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> >> >> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training >> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/* >> >> >> >> Travis Johnson wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting >>> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular customer >>> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent" >>> transport... and they are paying for it... :) >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote: >>>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites. No >>>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are the >>>> same as internet traffic typically, etc. Simpler, and no "loop" >>>> issues. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link >>>> Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 >>>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> >>>> >>>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training >>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Travis Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the >>>>> vlan >>>>> >>>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep from >>>>> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the >>>>> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does block >>>>> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN >>>>> never gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring. >>>>> >>>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find >>>>> anything that I missed to make it work... >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> Microserv >>>>> >>>>> Eric Rogers wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is >>>>>> the >>>>>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking >>>>>> VLANs active. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are >>>>>> allowed (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan >>>>>> all" and it >>>>>> did not display on the sho conf afterward). >>>>>> >>>>>> Travis >>>>>> Microserv >>>>>> >>>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Travis Johnson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I need some Cisco switch VLAN help. >>>>>> >>>>>> I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected >>>>>> via the GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning >>>>>> tree. I am trying to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of >>>>>> the FastEthernet ports so they can connect their offices. I have >>>>>> port 5 on each switch setup in >>>>>> VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as trunking >>>>>> ports. >>>>>> There are 17 other cisco switches between these two. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have this setup between two other offices, but they are >>>>>> directly connected to each other, with no other switches in >>>>>> between. >>>>>> >>>>>> What am I missing? >>>>>> >>>>>> Travis >>>>>> Microserv >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> -------- >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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