I'll tell you how - money. How can a small guy buy or rent at those prices.
Surely, in the days of electronics revolution there is something more
economical?
Thanks! -RickG

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Marlon K. Schafer <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote:

>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Tektronix-2754-50kHz-21GHz-RF-Spectrum-Analyzer-Tested_W0QQitemZ390031649077QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Analyzers?hash=item390031649077&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-8593E-Spectrum-Analyzer-9kHz-22-GHz-Opts-4-41_W0QQitemZ370160713052QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item370160713052&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Tektronix-492-50kHz-40GHz-Spectrum-Analyzer-NICE_W0QQitemZ290296909236QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Analyzers?hash=item290296909236&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
>
> Oh heck, there are nearly 400 on ebay right now.
>
> I have both a Berkly Varitronics Yellow Jacket (over prices but easy to use
> and very portable) and an Advantest (ex Sprint Cellular unit) that'll do 9k
> through 8g.  They don't get used very often, but when they do...  I don't
> know how a guy can run without one these days.
>
> Oh yeah, you can always rent one from Rentelco.
>
> laters,
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue
>
>
> >A spectrum analyzer is a good idea. I tried and wasnt impressed with
> >wi-spy.
> > Is there anything else inexpensive that will analyze the spectrum?
> > Thanks!
> > -RickG
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Phil Curnutt <pcurn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> It looks just like you described.  Get a spectrum analyzer or a wi-spy
> >> and
> >> check it out.  Chances are though you won't be there when it is
> >> happening.
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I agree but such a sudden change? I mean like day & night. Interesting
> >> > to
> >> > contemplate though. What does interference look like if IT is
> affecting
> >> > a
> >> > tower?
> >> > -RickG
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:08 PM, <e...@wisp-router.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Never assume a problem is ever interference no matter how rural you
> >> are.
> >> > > This is one of the biggest problem I see people are doing.
> >> > >
> >> > > /Eje
> >> > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> >> > >
> >> > > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:04:44
> >> > > To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
> >> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I agree with you and actually intend on replacing it. But, I doubt
> >> > > it's
> >> > > related since this setup has been running on this particular tower
> >> since
> >> > > 2004 (I bought the company this way). Also, it is set up on several
> >> > others
> >> > > with no issues. I failed to mention these towers are in very rural
> >> > > locations
> >> > > so I doubt there is any interference.
> >> > >
> >> > > -RickG
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <
> >> > o...@odessaoffice.com
> >> > > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Not sure if it's related or not, but high gain omni antennas are
> >> > usually
> >> > > a
> >> > > > great big no no.  They tend to send more signal UP than in the
> >> > direction
> >> > > of
> >> > > > the customers.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'd replace it with an 8 or 9 db unit just on principal.  You'll
> >> > probably
> >> > > > find that most customers will actually get a BETTER signal.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > laters,
> >> > > > marlon
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:23 PM
> >> > > > Subject: [WISPA] tower issue
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > OK, here a good one! (aka, how I spent my weekend in a
> blizzard!)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > One of my towers has a single WARP/StarOS connected to a 5GHz
> >> > > > > grid
> >> > for
> >> > > > > backhaul and a 15dBi omni for the local connections.
> >> > > > > On Saturday, after making some small changes, I rebooted it and
> >> > > > > it
> >> > > would
> >> > > > > not
> >> > > > > allow me to connect via wireless any longer - or my customers :(
> >> > > > > So, I go to the tower, connect up via ethernet and everything is
> >> > > > > a
> >> > > usual
> >> > > > > but
> >> > > > > I see all associations but only a few client have ip addresses.
> I
> >> can
> >> > > > ping
> >> > > > > the few clients but the packet loss is huge 80-90%. I then
> reload
> >> my
> >> > > > > backup
> >> > > > > but still get the same thing. I try changing channels, but still
> >> the
> >> > > > same.
> >> > > > > I
> >> > > > > then systematically begin replacing parts starting with the
> radio
> >> > card.
> >> > > > > Eventually, I replaced EVERYTHING but still have the problem.
> One
> >> > note:
> >> > > > > occasionally, twice of maybe three times, after a reboot, all
> >> > > > > came
> >> > back
> >> > > > > normal. The third time, I left well enough alone for now but of
> >> > course,
> >> > > > > you
> >> > > > > know what will happen the next time I reboot.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Any ideas???
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -RickG
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
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