So from the sound of this I should be looking at LTE as my next technology solution? Keeping in mind the LTE still is not here? Also keeping in mind that it will likely never be developed in an unlicensed spectrum solution except for maybe TV White spaces since the current networks that are deploying expect to use 700mhz as their solution. What does WiMAX even bring to the table then? The only spectrum to reliably deploy it in is 25mhz of 3650 spectrum since it is not interference tolerant. That seems like a large investment for such a small amount of spectrum especially since there are more cost effective products out today that are as good or better than WiMAX on the table, for many more bands of spectrum. I guess my real question is why WiMAX?
PS I really would like to deploy WiMAX and expect to, but I am looking exclusively at .e since it is the only standard still being actively worked on that I am aware of. Anthony Will Broadband Corp. John Rock wrote: > Well said Patrick... > I would like to add - as a whole the industry uses the word "mobility" all > the time and has used that pretense of mobile broadband coverage anywhere > you go as a staple to the word WiMAX. The truth is WiMAX from about any of > the WiMAX manufacturers has made great improvements in QoS and receive > sensitivities with the use of smarter antenna technology but still fall > short in the realm of seamless mobility most of us have grown to expect with > our cell phones/hand held devices. That is 802.16d > 802.16e offers the "promise" of mobility in a seamless sense, meaning > roaming from tower to tower or sector to sector without any noticeable drop > in service. Wow I wish my cell phone never dropped a call. That may sound > great but like Patrick said the carrier groups that can maybe afford the > costs of the huge build out required to have that type of coverage have > their ties to LTE technology or are tied up with the tough economic times as > we all are. > > Now let's look at the present technology of 802.16d and Aperto as this > thread entails. I can drive from one town to another and get associated and > pass data(12Mbx8Mb). Since I drove with a CPE in my car and mobile antenna > on my roof that makes me mobile on that network right. So I may have dropped > a few packets as I roamed from site to site but as long as I can get IP back > up everything is good. Aperto has a very reliable cost effective solution > today for 3.65GHz and like any manufacture it has the functionality of WiMAX > which helps a ton with service profiling for your customers. If people are > not using some sort of 802.16(WiMAX) product they are falling behind in the > exciting future of the Wireless Marketplace. > > Now a WiMAX rant, not sure if the WiMAX Forums ears are open but, I am > disappointed that I do not have a CPE(802.16d) that can link to anyone's > Base Stations. Sure with the onset of 802.16e that is supposed to work but > the lack of earlier interoperability that the WiMAX forum promised from the > onset has been disappointing to me. If we had interoperable systems like the > essence of WiFi with the current WiMAX systems the marketplace may have been > quicker to embrace the technology and great strides could have been made for > network roaming already. Roaming agreements could already be in place if > interoperability was the true focus from the beginning. End WiMAX rant.... > > > John Rock > Director of Operations - Senior Engineer > Wireless Connections > 166 Milan Ave., Norwalk, Oh. 44857 > ACCessing the Future Today!! > ofc. 419.660.6100 > cell 419-706-7356 > fax 419-668-4077 > http://www.wirelessconnections.net > This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential > and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If > you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying > or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by > reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:00 PM > To: [email protected]; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to > knowwhatyouthink. > > It's a fair question and it bugs me too. Fact is, I was a more than a > bit blind and thought I was more objective than I really was. Also, > since then the economy and other conditions has conspired to kick e in > the teeth a bit. I still believe it is great technology for nomadic and > perhaps mobile, but it is damned near impossible to fight the LTE > interests AND the current economy that is so weak no big guys are > spending big CAPEX, giving LTE all the time it needs to catch > technically (and it already dominates politically). That has me moving > back to where I began -- wireless broadband is primarily a fixed > business, with some added nomadicity in some cases. For that, d is the > better standard, at least with my current hindsight. > > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:33 AM > To: [email protected]; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to > knowwhatyouthink. > > Patrick, can you clarify the e vs. d for me. The reason I ask is that I > saw you do the Alvarion webinar and claimed that e was the only way to > go. Now that you are with Aperto, d is the only way to go. > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jeff Booher <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Marlon, >> >> What are you talking about? Our product is very reliable, and we have >> many very happy customers ( including some very large ones such as >> towerstream ) >> >> - >> >> Jeff >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:00 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know >> whatyouthink. >> >> I have heard NOTHING good about their product's reliability. I have >> one consulting customer that's still using them, his failure rates are >> > shocking. > >> I'd have dumped them years ago. >> >> Unless this changes I'd stay far far away from Aperto. (I've been to >> the Ca. offices and like the people that run the show, but that >> doesn't help my customers at all.) >> >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pat O'Connor" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:29 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know what >> > > >> youthink. >> >> >> >>> We're looking to deploy 3.65GHz this year in a couple of different >>> locations because of interference issues. So far they have the most >>> compelling price point. I'd like to know how well it works in the >>> field. All opinions appreciated. Hit me off list if you want to.\ >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> ---------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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