I get all that Brian. And, naturally you are right. I am sure that Roger is a great guy, if I ever get the chance to meet him I'd love to buy him a beer, on behalf of everyone that gets to take advantage of his hard work. I've give away more than a little of my own time and knowledge, with no expectation of a thank you let alone payment. I have the utmost respect for anyone that would do what he's done.
Since this is freeware, maybe someone would like to make it at least as easy as, oh I duno, maybe Quickbooks? Not the easiest program in the world, but at least the average person can get it up and running without having to study a manual first. But I digress, I've not spent more time chasing my tail around an email thread than I'd have spent on the phone with someone that could have walked me through the setup and basic functions of this program. I knew that could happen. But that's the way it goes. Sometimes people think that everyone knows what they know. Like me telling a customer to right click. Sometimes they don't know what a right click is. Just like I don't know what I'm supposed to do with a paypal email address thingy. I'm just that not far along on the subject to even get started on my own. Many here have told of how hard it is to master RM. I've heard that over and over for years. Believe me, if I had 1 or 3 sites to look at I'd just have hired someone to deal with the map for me. I have 10s of sites to look at though. Across a large area. I have to first map out the 30+ sites I have, then fill in the holes and extend it by another 30 or so towers. I don't think I can get that done for even $1000 let alone a few hundred consulting dollars I'm more than happy to give to someone. What is it that Clint Eastood said? "A man's gotta know his limitations." I know mine, and sitting down to read up on how to even get started with a software package isn't one of my strong suits! grin laters, marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Webster" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile > Marlon, > Roger Coude the software author (a personal friend of mine) is not a > programmer, he is an engineer who built this to solve his problems. He was > gracious enough years ago to release this as freeware and has worked very > hard at improving it. Commercial RF tools (of which I have a few) cost in > the 10's to hundreds of thousands of dollars. I sent you links to two very > good tutorials on how to use this program, step by step instructions in > fact. You not wanting to read the directions does not make someone a lazy > programmer or a bad program. RF Engineering is not something you can learn > by paying someone $100 for some phone tech support. Radio Mobile is a > great > program but it is not easy and it will take a lot of time for you to learn > how to work it to the full potential and to get proper results. > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile > > > I understand that. Why do you think I'm even trying to learn it? > > Still, programmers shouldn't be so danged lazy! How hard can it be to put > a > good install program in place? Or a map (hey, what a thing for a mapping > program to include!) that you can click on to download the data you are > interested in.... > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark McElvy" <[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:17 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile > > >> You may think it is a POS but try and buy something that can do what it >> can. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:11 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile >> >> Sold! >> >> I tried to download the terrain data, but I got the NED instead of the >> srtm. >> I don't know which data set to get. WHAT a POS system this is! >> >> Also, I don't have paypal. If you'll take a cc or check I'm in. >> >> laters, >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jerry Richardson" <[email protected]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile >> >> >>> I'll get you from zero to terrain analysis in about an hour. >>> >>> You'll need to get your SRTM data loaded first - do you know how to do >>> that? >>> >>> We can use ZOHO Web Meeting. >>> >>> Price 100.00 paid via PayPal >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> >>> airCloud Communications >>> Broadband for Business >>> Public and Private WiFi >>> >>> Jerry Richardson >>> VP Operations >>> 925-260-4119 >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> ConsuWISP >>> RF Topographical Coverage Maps >>> Network Optimization and Planning >>> Network Design and Troubleshooting >>> Installer and Technician Training >>> >>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On >>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:54 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile >>> >>> I don't have time (or the desire) to wade through a bunch of >>> documentation. >>> >>> I'll pay someone for their time. >>> >>> thanks, >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:10 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile >>> >>> >>>> Uhm...ya... >>>> >>>> Try this... >>>> >>>> http://www.pizon.org/radio-mobile-tutorial/index.html >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Marlon K. Schafer >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> I need to learn how to use this program. I can't even figure out >> how >>> to >>>>> get >>>>> started with it (less than user friendly isn't it!) though. Anyone >>>>> willing >>>>> to spend some time on the phone and help me figure out the basics? >>>>> >>>>> Shoot me your number and a good time to call. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -------- >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -------- >>>>> >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> -------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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