Brian

It's bits for transfer and bytes for file sizes.

Lots of people get that mixed up.

Hope that helps

George


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
> I wear that hat.  "Jack of all trades, master of none"
> 
> Today, I drove by rental house down the road and saw dish tv being 
> installed.  I turned around to go tell the new renter I had wireless 
> internet in the area. (I always find sat tv subs are likely to want 
> internet) So, I go tell him and he says how fast is your service?  I 
> say, 3-4 meg down and 1-2 meg up.  He says megabytes or megabits?  I 
> stuttered for a bit and said, ya know, like a t1 is 1.5 meg, my service 
> is twice as fast.  Tell you what, I felt like a moron.  After five years 
> of "doing it all" it sure seems like I would know a bit from a byte.  Oh 
> well, at least I got the subscriber. 
> So, like I said.  Jack of all trades, master of none.
> 
> Brian
> 
> RickG wrote:
>> I can identify with both of you. I do it all but it becomes overwhelming at
>> times!
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:14 AM, <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Forbes, I'm not far away from you, and if you ever need network type help,
>>> feel free to holler.
>>>
>>> I love the technical stuff.   Don't much care for the paperwork or installs
>>> in the rain, or climbing ladders, or climbing into the bucket on the
>>> truck...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> <insert witty tagline here>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Forbes Mercy" <forbes.me...@wabroadband.com>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:44 PM
>>> Subject: [WISPA] The good college try
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>>> The modern day WISP that is smaller has to run more efficiently, I lost
>>>> my system admin in the last budget cut.  He helps from his new job but
>>>> the network is pretty much up to me, a former ISP owner and not the most
>>>> technically inclined as I should be.  Obviously I have more knowledge
>>>> than the average bear but reading code, design specs or engineering can
>>>> sometimes be a bit much, that's why I have the savings from a full time
>>>> admin to hire people who can guide me.  My feeling is Marlon is pretty
>>>> much in the same boat.  While some in WISPA have thousands of customers
>>>> in more urban/suburban environments we are all rural.  Speaking only for
>>>> myself I'm frequently in over my head, that's why I belong to this
>>>> group, I'm a much better businessman than tech but I learn easily when I
>>>> have interest in a topic.  We try not to look dumb when we ask for help
>>>> and try to compensate for the help with volunteering for projects,
>>>> paying for consulting or just a big thanks.  Some on here may think
>>>> non-geeks don't belong but we're all in this for the same reason, I
>>>> personally left the Fire Service to learn and build this business, Maybe
>>>> I can't engineer a backhaul but I can sure do CPR if you need it, done
>>>> it over 200 times.  Just show a little patience and if you don't want to
>>>> educate the ignorant that's your right but we sure appreciate it when
>>>> you can help and I for one promise to not ask for too much at once or
>>>> act like our lovely customers who can't find the start button.  Thanks
>>>> for what you do help, I appreciate it!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Forbes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:36 AM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marlon,
>>>>
>>>> Honestly, based on the questions you are asking, I think you may be in
>>>> over your head on this project. You may want to seek some help from
>>>> someone that has actually done this type of work and knows what they are
>>>> doing.
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think we need the unlicensed for each hop if the entire network
>>>> is
>>>> build in a circle?
>>>> marlon
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> <mailto:t...@ida.net>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:12 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Licensed 18ghz links with 5.8ghz backup links for each hop.
>>>> Figure
>>>> $15,000 per link for everything.
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for some gear that'll be rock solid at 15 to
>>>> 20 miles.  Some
>>>> links may be less, but I'm not counting on that.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be hauling public safety, private vpns, and normal
>>>> internet traffic.
>>>>
>>>> I'll probably have around 20 towers, all linked in a
>>>> ring.  I can load
>>>> share
>>>> across the ring as long as speeds never drop below
>>>> 100megs.  I'll want
>>>> things to be automatically self healing if there is a
>>>> loss of
>>>> connectivity
>>>> in any direction.
>>>>
>>>> What would you guys use/suggest?
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to go licensed (but no 6 gig due to antenna
>>>> sizes) but
>>>> unlicensed
>>>> may be OK due to the failover capabilities.
>>>>
>>>> We have to worry about snow, fog and, worst of all, dust
>>>> storms.
>>>>
>>>> What gear would you use?  How would you set this up?
>>>>
>>>> I'm in the pricing stage so off list quotes etc. are
>>>> welcome.  Pall park
>>>> numbers are fine at this time, as long as they tend to
>>>> run high vs. low,
>>>> I'd
>>>> rather over estimate the costs.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> marlon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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