I was referring to POPs, where they will sell bandwidth. Obviously your chances in the middle of the line are slim unless you're buying big pipes (gig+). These companies are in the transit business, not the retail broadband. That's one reason I avoid recommending buying from AT&T, Verizon, etc.
I agree with a lot of what you said. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:26 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth > It doesn't matter how many are in town, if none of them will give you > access. > The fact is... Nobody will sell you access to their Fiber near cost to > deploy it, when it will only allow you to compete against their own retail > services. > They will only give you a cost that will allow you to be a bit more > expensive than their own service. > > Secondly, the cost models listed are on last generation models, not future > generation models. Sure 1000 users can be served with 20mbps in the past. > But can it when the users now each have 5 mb uploads and 20 mbps > downloads? > When you start hitting 100mbps because one is going after large anchor > tenants whom might actually use badnwdith, The $200/mb Bandwidth doesn't > translate the same. > > The issue is... How do you grow over the next 5 years to deliver the fast > speeds that consumers will eventually desire? > > My opinion is two fold.... > > One does invest and build their own Wireless Backhauls, even if it costs > more in the short term. The reason is that once you have, you'll have the > leverage to buy Fiber cheaper, in the future. If they won't sell it > cheaper, take the fiber carrier's customers by under selling them, until > they lower their price. > > And when Fiber is deployed via grants, lobby for the deployers to get > priority, if they sell Fibers to third parties at cost, at a lower cost > than > the managed service. So more providers can get dark fiber equivellent to > the > cost, so competition is being created at the same time. If 64 strands > exist, buying acccess to 1 strand should be 1/64th of the cost to lay that > fiber bundle. In most markets the cost of a Dark Fiber strand is far > greater > than a managed service that specificall limits the potential of the buyer. > Fiber will never benefit small WISPs until small WISPs get rid of the > upstream that purposely limits their potential and value they can offer to > the public. > > Lobbyiest ask to mandate faster speeds. I ask to spread the fiber strands > around to multiple providers, to restore competition, share/distribute > costs > at cost, and repait the broken market, so the market can once again be > relied on to drive affordable bandwdith. > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth > > >> Someone once asked me what was in their area, so I looked. There were >> I'm >> recalling at least 4 major international carriers right in their town.... >> must have been a landing station. It pays to know what's in your area. >> ;-) >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Harold Bledsoe" <hbled...@deliberant.net> >> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:47 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth >> >>> Those of you that are paying >$50/Mbps, what is keeping you from >>> building your own backhaul to cheaper bandwidth (wireless, dark fiber, >>> etc.)? It seems to me that this would be a major consideration in the >>> business plan as this is a big MRC. Don't wait for someone to bring you >>> cheap bandwidth...go get it! :-) >>> >>> -Hal >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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