JC,

Interesting post.

>So when you look at a 10 GigE number like 7 Gbps, we actually
>> forwarding 7 Gbps full duplex in and out, or a total of 28 Gbps of 
>> aggregate
>> traffic.

Thats pretty impressive. Considering CPU front side bus, is also a bottle 
neck point.
I'm assuming the 10GB card design is playing a significant role to bypass 
CPU bottleneck?

But its great to see Imagestream pioneering this technology.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Rogato" <wi...@oregonfast.net>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: 10 GigE


> So what price range are we talking for such an animal?
>
>
> Jeff Broadwick wrote:
>> I don't think this went out to the list:
>>
>>
>> Hey Tom.
>>
>> We just pushed over 7 Gbps full duplex over 18 GigE ports in the lab, so
>> we're fast approaching that 10 GigE mark. With small packets, the same
>> system forwarded around over 2.3 million PPS. With PCI Express, our 
>> systems
>> are generally limited by CPU and memory speed instead of being bus 
>> limited.
>> This means that as long as we can get faster CPUs and memory, we can move
>> more packets over PCI Express interfaces.
>>
>> The PCIe bus can support 250 MBps full duplex over a single x1 lane, 
>> which
>> is the same as 2 Gbps (B = Byte and b = bit) full duplex. The widest PCI
>> Express bus we support currently is x16, which provides up to
>> 32 Gbps full duplex. We don't currently have any cards that require this
>> much bandwidth, but again, this performance is CPU and memory limited.
>>
>> The 7 Gbps Jeff mentioned is actually not a published performance spec
>> because we are having issues with our test bed. The 10 GigE cards we are
>> testing have multiple stream processors in them, and they are not 
>> designed
>> to be able to forward 10 GigE with a single IP stream. We don't have 10 
>> GigE
>> cards for our Smartbits 6000, so we are testing with a NeStream 10 GigE 
>> test
>> system. This system has not made it easy to control the flows, and we may
>> need additional software to support the testing we need to do.
>>
>> In any case, we expect to get to 10 GigE at wire speed with large packets
>> yet this year. Our vendors claim to have achieved this level of 
>> performance,
>> so we should be able to get to the same throughput. I can't really 
>> comment
>> on small packet performance, other than to say we've seen over 500 Mbps 
>> full
>> duplex throughput with pure 64-byte traffic on our GigE ports, so I 
>> expect
>> to be able to forward at least this much traffic with our 10 GigE cards.
>>
>> Also, don't forget that we are talking about 10 GigE in and out with this
>> test. So when you look at a 10 GigE number like 7 Gbps, we actually
>> forwarding 7 Gbps full duplex in and out, or a total of 28 Gbps of 
>> aggregate
>> traffic.
>>
>> jc
>>
>>
>> Jeff Broadwick wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> We think we will eventually be able to saturate a 10 Gig link (PCIe), 
>>> but
>>> you aren't going to go much higher than that.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> ImageStream
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:30 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE
>>>
>>> And that is not likely an Imagestream specific limit, but a general PC
>>> archetecture limit. A lot of high end gear will max out by then or 
>>> before.
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jeff Broadwick" <jeffl...@comcast.net>
>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> Depends on packet size.  We have 10 Gig cards that we can put in our
>>>> routers, but we can't run one full out yet.  About the best we've seen 
>>>> in
>>>> the lab is 7 Gigs full duplex, in optimal conditions.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>> ImageStream
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:23 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] 10 GigE
>>>>
>>>> Any recommendations for routers that have multiple 10 GigE interfaces? 
>>>> I
>>>> believe the PowerRouter can only do 3 and I'm looking for at least 4,
>>>>
>> even
>>
>>>> up to 8 or 10.  I didn't see anything from ImageStream that went that
>>>> high.
>>>>
>>>> I don't need to do 100 Gigs of throughput, but if you need 1 GigE of
>>>> commit,
>>>> you really need a 10 GigE for bursting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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