On Apr 21, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Michael Baird wrote:

> Have you deployed it? From my initial research, it appears that the
> bigger vendors Motorola/Alverion are supporting the 802.16e variety,
> while the smaller vendors such as Tranzeo are supporting the 802.16d
> variety. I'm aware of the advantages at the Mac Layer, but why would
> 802.16d at 3.65 with a slightly higher EIRP at 7 mhz channel spacing
> have better range then 802.11 variants at 2.4?

Noise. You should get, iirc, a 20 db lower noise floor at 3.65. Also,  
(again, iirc), in .16d you get to use 1 watt per MHz of channel size.  
So with a 7 MHz channel you have 7 watts to work with. The noise floor  
alone is worth 100x the power, and the extra EIRP is just a bonus.

Chuck

>
>
> The 802.16d unit specs I've looked at don't appear to scale much  
> higher
> then the 2.4 units, but 802.16e appears to have the 2x2, 4x4 antenna
> tech that it seems would make a big difference at range. What's the
> magic that makes 802.16d work better then 802.11 variants as far as
> coverage, with essentially the same power but at a higher frequency?
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>> Here is the quick answer:
>> 802.16d is a fixed only technology (no mobility) which performs quite
>> well for delivering broadband to homes and businesses. Highly
>> available. Secure. More expensive, more scalable and somewhat higher
>> latency than similar fixed technologies based on 802.11 and other
>> proprietary systems similar to 802.11. Most prominently used in 3.65
>> GHz in the US. Heavily used in 3.5 GHz in  international areas where
>> no copper plant has been installed previously. Unique feature of this
>> technology is the ability to provision service flows with predictable
>> performance criteria. This enables SLA provisioning on wireless
>> broadband virtual circuits and many other advantages over any other
>> broadband platform (wireless or wired).
>>
>> 802.16e is a fixed and mobile platform. This is being used now in 2.5
>> GHz licensed band in the US and elsewhere. Very little has been done
>> to take full advantage of mobility in this band. More expensive to
>> deploy than 802.16d. Higher latency than 802.16d. This is a direct
>> competitor to LTE systems for cellular. If you do not hold an
>> exclusive licensee in  2.5 GHz then this is not likely an option for
>> you at this time.
>>
>> For more input and more help take it to the [email protected] list  
>> for
>> paid members and we can dig into it deeper including step by step
>> instructions for getting your own 3.65 license and applying for
>> locations.
>> Scriv
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Michael Baird <[email protected]>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm researching these two technologies and Wimax in general, does  
>>> anyone
>>> have any firsthand experience with the two current different types  
>>> of
>>> Wimax, or references to the differences in the two different types  
>>> of
>>> technologies for broadband fixed rural deployments?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Baird
>>>
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