Butch's suggestion for multipath is to tilt the antenna up a few
degrees.   Worked for us the few times I have seen it.

On 4/26/09, Marlon K. Schafer <o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:
> We've actually seen quite a bit of multipath this year.  Probably 3 or 4
> sites had to have the antennas moved.  Several others aren't working as well
> as they used to, but we've got no where to move the antennas to.
>
> It's a hard problem to diagnose.  We had one customer that's been with us
> for a couple of years now.  He always had somewhat slow, but usable, speeds.
> Finally things really got bad.  I noticed his signal levels was WAY below
> what it should have been.  Ahh, I've seen the Tranzeo cpq radios go deaf
> before so I put in a new radio.  It was better but not right.  Hmmmmmm.  I
> then unmounted the radio and tried moving it around a bit.  (He shoots over
> the road and under some BIG high voltage lines.)  We ended up moving his
> antenna down 2 or 3 feet and over by about 6'.  His signal levels went WAY
> up and his speeds more than doubled.  The best part of all?  He's not called
> me since that day!
>
> In the real world we can't always avoid multipath.  We can only minimize it.
> When things just don't seem right on a link, it's one of the things I check
> for.
>
> Oh yeah, out here, in the rolling hills it hits us worse in the spring.
> Somewhat in the fall, but mostly in the spring.  I *think* it's got to do
> with how the weeds etc. deflect the signals.  Either that or just the water
> levels in our normally bone dry dirt.  (I'm in desert country)
>
> I've always wanted to get one of those Berkley Varitronics units that shows
> multipath.  Too bad they are so blasted expensive.
>
> laters,
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] SOLVED - Signal Strengths
>
>
> I'm not saying this is your issue but I wanted to put this out on the
> list. I've heard and perhaps seen areas that have a lot of metalic
> content in the ground which causes reflection. Thoughts anyone?
> -RickG
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Jason Wallace <supp...@azii.net> wrote:
>> Well,
>>
>> There was only a desert floor of dirt between me and the AP about 4
>> miles away. Not even any houses to speak of. There were no metal roofs
>> directly in the way. There WAS a very large steel building perpendicular
>> to
>> me about 40 feet away. Also, within 2 miles, there's grain silos scattered
>> around that could cause a reflection. It was either this or it was right
>> at
>> the edge of Fresnel effects.
>>
>> SOLUTION?
>>
>> I changed to a CPE with a higher gain (Deliberating 15dbi). I think the
>> tighter antenna pattern acted like "blinders" to the out of phase signals.
>> I did not have to move the installation point. 70's db. All is well.
>>
>> Thanks everyone, for your encouraging input.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> PS. I'm keeping an eye on it...
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> This happens a lot with metal roofs in the way.  10 feet over, around
>> the mentioned building we go from -90 to -65
>>
>> On 4/25/09, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> You're seeing normal RF behavior. Simply mount the antenna where the
>> signal is the strongest then use your network monitoring system to keep
>> an "eye" on it.
>>
>> Jason Wallace wrote:
>>
>>
>> Everyone,
>>
>>     I had trouble during an install today regarding signal strengths.
>> 2.4Ghz CPE in a location that should be no problem.  Moving the CPE two
>> feet in any direction from the point where the CPE was installed
>> increased the signal by around 20db (-90 to -70!)
>>
>> Any idea of what phenomenon I am dealing with?
>>
>> Anything I should consider as I correct this install?
>>
>> Jason
>>
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