This is not true. Or else every minipci card would have to be tested and certified with every single laptop they are being installed into. A SBC or a laptop motherboard is a class B regulated device. If it passes the class B compliance testing your allowed to installed any FCC certified transmitter into said board be it a Wi-Fi card (mini-pci, pc card, pc express card) or for that matter a telcom modem card of any formfactor. When it comes to computer hardware FCC relaxed the regulations years back to have the Class B type devices that are self compliance testing to allow computer manufactures to market and sell computers without having to type certify the entire solution as it once used to be. This created the computer industry as we know it today where you can buy any motherboard, case, powersupply, video card etc that are each class B type certified (where appropriate required) and assemble into a complete solution and get a FCC certified telcom modem or Wi-Fi card and install it into the unit without requiring a FCC certification of the entire solution.
If they had not allowed this easing of regulations every DIY computer guy, every small computer sales and repair shop in the US would daily violate the FCC regulations. A SBC board after all is a miniature all in on motherboard. / Eje Gustafsson CTO WISP-Router, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 2:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC There are multiple ways to certify equipment, which have different requirements. The new trend is to certify the card with the antenna, just like you were buying a certified wifi card off Best Buy's shelf, intending to install it in your thrid party laptop. However, we all know, by FCC's original intent, for full wireless system certification, the main board and Case are a relevent factor to establishing what the RF is comming out of a system. Without a case being defined, and voltage being defined, its pretty hard to determine, what the radiating RF outcome would be, unless the mainboard on its own. What also needs certification is "Specific Main Board, in Specific Case", before a wireless card is even injected to the equation, because we are then looking at the interference the mainboard can put out on its own. Anyway, my point here is not to lobby for "FCC Certification", just wondering what Enclosures the RBs have been tested in, and verified clean via a spectrum analyzer. This can be done indpendantly of the FCC, by anyone that has an analyzer. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Cosby" <dco...@infowest.com> To: <e...@wisp-router.com>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > Can you explain what you mean by "certified" then? What does that > entail other than just putting together a board, antenna and radio that > are fcc certified? Do you have the entire unit tested and certified, or > do yo see that as not necessary? > > Randy > > > Eje Gustafsson wrote: >> Cross roads are certified with the entire Pacific Wireless line of >> antennas. >> R52 is certified with most of those as well (if not all). You can also >> use >> XR2/5 cards in RB SBC's. >> >> There are other solutions as well. >> >> We offer some certified pre built solutions more to come. >> >> / Eje Gustafsson >> CTO >> WISP-Router, Inc. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Randy Cosby >> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC >> >> Old thread, but just curious where this has progressed. I've seen that >> JeffSoHoCo has "certified" gear. Is that based on the same Mikrotik >> program you describe here Mac? Is that information available from >> Mikrotik to any reseller? >> >> Randy >> >> >> Mac Dearman wrote: >> >>> Word on the FCC certified gear is that they are working with USA based >>> resellers to get them up to speed to offer certified gear. It's all in >>> the >>> paperwork at this point in time and we all know that the devil is in the >>> paperwork. It is on its way from what I understand and should be readily >>> available in the near future. >>> >>> >>> Mac >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC >>>> >>>> Mikrotik has the Crossroads device out now. Not sure on anyone else. >>>> I >>>> think Mikrotik developing their own certified CPE shut down everyone >>>> else. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> >>>> To: <isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com>; "WISPA General List" >>>> <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:37 PM >>>> Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that >>>>> >>>>> >>>> was >>>> >>>> >>>>> working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.). >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Does >>>> >>>> >>>>> anyone know the status on this or if it was even real? >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> Microserv >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ----------- >>>> >>>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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