Now that makes sense 

 
 
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Jerry Richardson 
airCloud Communications

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

The Contains FCC ID: PPD-AR5BXB63 means that the laptop contains a
certified module.  EEEPC or whoever the manufacturer is, still had to
get a Declaration of Conformity covering the laptop, module, likely
peripherals, and AC adapter.  What they didn't have to do is get a new
full certification for the system.  Just a DoC.  A DoC still requires a
lab test but it is cheaper than a full cert.

-Hal



On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 12:08 -0700, Jerry Richardson wrote:
> Maybe this will clear things up (or muddy the waters....)
> 
> I am looking at the bottom of my EEEPC which has a FCC ID: 
> PPD-AR5BXB63 (Atheros 802.11B/G) which refers to:
> https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode
> =E 
> xhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=141428&fcc
> _i
> d=%27PPD-AR5BXB63%27
> 
> In the Test Report neither EEEPC or ASUS are mentioned. The test was 
> performed on a external jig on an HP laptop with a 3dB dipole.
> 
> Next I looked up a Ubiquty SR71 card:
> https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode
> =E 
> xhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=287610&fcc
> _i
> d=%27SWX-SR71%27.
> 
> Again, the test was done an external jig on a different model HP
laptop.
> The Antenna Info sheet includes a 32Db pac wireless dish, a 5dB 2.4 
> omni, 17dB 2.4 panel (not sector), and a 21dB 5.8 panel (not sector).
> 
> Based on this I conclude that I can use any certified radio in my 
> computer (routerboard) as long as I do not use an antenna that is not 
> type certified. I need to put the FCC ID of the radio(s) on the 
> outside of the case so that an inspector does not need to open the 
> unit to obtain it.
> 
> Thoughts? Comments?
>  
> __________________________________
> Jerry Richardson
> airCloud Communications
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
> On Behalf Of Scott Carullo
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:24 AM
> To: Matt Liotta; wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> 
> 
> I've been told personally by an FCC testing lab that I can take a XR5 
> which has been tested with say a 23db panel antenna (with FCC) and use

> the same gain antenna or less for myself and would not have to have it

> certified again...  They told me not to get it tested because I didn't

> need to because Ubiquity already part certified it on that type
antenna.
> 
> If this is an argument we will never resolve I can live with that, but

> I am fairly sure with the resources on this list we can come to a 
> final conclusion based on facts and I think we should.
> 
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> > From: "Matt Liotta" <mlio...@r337.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:52 PM
> > To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" <sc...@brevardwireless.com>, "WISPA
> General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> > 
> > On May 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Eje Gustafsson says this is not the case or elsewhen I buy a 
> > > minipci
> 
> > > wireless card for my laptop it would be illegal...
> > >
> > This has been discussed at length. No matter how many times someone 
> > makes the laptop argument it doesn't change the fact that the FCC 
> > disagrees with that argument. Now someone could pay an attorney to 
> > argue with the FCC and get them to clarify the situation. Until that

> > time the system certification requirement stands.
> > 
> > -Matt
> 
> 
> 
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