All good points. I put a box complete with power and ethernet switch
on the outside of HWSC so I can control everything. I also try to stay
away from roof top mounts. I'd rather be on a grain silo, short
tower., or even a barn than track on someone's shingles.
-RickG

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM, D. Ryan Spott<[email protected]> wrote:
> My repeater contact is simple.
>
> If un-served-behind-the-big-rock-customer (USBTBR) wants service, they
> need to talk to their neighbor about it.  If they establish some sort
> dialog, then the house-with-service-customer (HWSC) calls me to tell me
> it is OK. I find that this makes it a community/neighbor issue and
> really cuts down on "you have been on my roof for a year with 3
> customers, I want $5K a month rent now" sorts of calls).
>
> I give a $5 per month discount to the HWSC for the first USBTBRr they
> repeat to. After the second USBTBR is using the repeater, the
> house-with-service customer is no longer billed. We usually don't even
> tell them we stopped billing them. They call us after a month or 4 and
> ask us why there have been no debits. Then we tell them. :)
>
> Because there is:
> a financial incentive (free or reduced cost service and See's Chocolate
> delivered by my daughter during the holidays),
> a broadband incentive (I usually put these people on my 5.8Ghz backbone),
> and a good neighbor incentive (some USBTBR have mowed the
> house-with-service-customer's lawns, baked pies etc)
> We often get house-with-service-customers giving us access to their
> backup generators, rebooting our equipment for us etc.
>
> Some things I have learned:
> 1. NEVER tell the USBTBR that the house-with-service-customer is getting
> free or reduced cost service.
> 2. If you PoE is inside the HWSC home, install some sort of
> female-female coupler in a weather resistant box at ground level so you
> can come onto the property for reboots without entering the house or
> climbing on the roof.
> 3. Never tell the USBTBR that this reboot device exists, but let the
> HWSC know it is there and let them tell the others if they wish. This
> reduces all of the neighbors coming across the lawn to reboot what they
> think is a bad repeater. The HWSC will generally let one or 2 trusted
> neighbors know the reboot thing is there.
> 4. Keep the roof traffic down to a minimum. Asphalt shingles begin to
> wear out after a while causing concern with residential owners.
> 5. Keep the truck traffic down to daylight hours and tell the HWSC that
> you won't even knock on their door and disturb them if you are just
> coming for a reboot or quick service call. Of course, a few of my HWSC
> DO want me to tell them I am there, and I do.
> 6. Establish with your USBTBRs FIRST OFF that they are behind a repeater
> that is there due to the good graces of the HWSC. Therefore, if service
> drops in the middle of the nigh, you are not going to wake someone up to
> do a reboot, nor are you going to risk getting shot running to that
> person's house to reboot the repeater.
>
>
> ryan
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Thank you for sharing, Rick!
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> improbable, must be the truth."
>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Attached...RickG
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anyone have a contract they could share for this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanx
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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