We use a hosting service for our domain (no need to run a webserver anymore)
and it's a shared hosting account that will allow me to add email if I want.
They scan for the virus's, they do the backup, etc.  The cost is 100 bucks a
year and rarely a headache.  Being a shared hosting service, we can also add
domains to it.  Say, a business signs up and they have no email for the
business setup and no website.  We can offer to setup a domain, vanity email
for their business and they can have a nice little website.  The cost for us
is nothing since it's a shared hosting account and we can charge a little
more for the service of setting it up.  For that 100 bucks a year, we have
16 business customers on the shared host all with their own @whatever email
addresses and a website if they want it.  They take care of their own
password changes and all, we just enter the information when it's first
setup.  They can also add and change or whatever to their site if they
please.  Easy money on all that at least.

I try to do what's practical for us and with less hassle.  The less people
we have to have on staff the better and this simple 100 bucks a year easily
saves us one person on staff.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

I have thought about this many times as well. I couldnt make a clean
break so I practically keep it a secret that we offer it. They only
get our email if they ask. Now, if we can drop the electrical
storms!!!
-RickG

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Robert West<[email protected]>
wrote:
> Email?  We don't need no stinkin' email!
>
> We gave up email hosting.  We were sending invoices via email and lots of
> the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
> address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online!  The user
> accounts were jammed packed of just junk mail and such because they never
> grabbed mail from their box.  Well!  After some thought, we stopped giving
> out email addresses and giving them a list of free email sites such as
Gmail
> and yahoo.  ("In an effort to keep our prices as friendly as we can.....
> blah, blah, blah.....)  We grandfathered the existing users and hosted
them
> but eventually they all moved to the free providers also.  So now what?
 No
> more support calls on the email, I can tell ya that!  More than half of
our
> trouble tickets went away.  I no longer have to recite to grandma how to
> reenter her user name and password just because the grandkids wiped it out
> of her incredimail.  YES!!!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:33 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
>
> Hi All,
>
> What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
> reliability, ease of use etc.
>
> Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
catch
> things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
has
> now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
>
> My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
> limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
off
>
> the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.....
>
> The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
> 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
> address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
even
>
> mine (faked info).  sigh
>
> We use Courier MTA.
>
> My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
per
> user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
messages
> received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
those
>
> sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
> the server admins.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> laters,
> marlon
>
>
>
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