Joe,

Both links are using Radiowave 3' high performance antennas. One link is a pair 
of Orthogon units, the other are Trango Tlink10's and a third 20mi link are 
Trango Atlases.

This scenario is setup as an OSPF 'ring'.

Cliff


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Joe Miller
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Link Loss

Cliff,

What type of radio are you using? I have a 19.2 link over here in Gulfport and 
it has been rock solid. I'm using 3ft dishes too.

Joe Miller
DSLbyAir, LLC
228-238-2563
www.dslbyair.com



----- Original Message ----
From: Cliff Leboeuf <cliff.lebo...@cssla.com>
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:21:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Link Loss

One is about 18 miles, the other is just over 20 miles.
- Cliff


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 12:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Link Loss

We're still guessing here.  He's never told us how LONG the links are.
If 
they are 10 miles apart it's probably not ducting.

marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com>
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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Link Loss


> The way I understand it, and have worked to my advantage as a ham, is
> the layers stratify at fairly definite borders in tropospheric
> ducting.  The layer works more like a duct with a mirror like
> top.  The signals can be repeatedly "reflected" back down into the
duct.
>
> I did some experiments during one tropo opening using some long
> circular polarized yagis at both vhf and uhf.  The signals appear to
> become more randomly polarized as the distance in the duct
> increases.  The signals coming from areas around the Gulf coming into
> SW Fl during the events had components of both vertical and
> horizontal polarization.
>
> Refraction is the deflection of a wave on passing obliquely from one
> transparent medium into a second medium in which its speed is
different.
>
> So, both upon entering and leaving the duct the signal can also be
> subject to refraction?  Not sure.
>
> Mike
>
>
> At 10:52 AM 8/9/2009, you wrote:
>>That is correct. So my next question: Can refraction be caused by
>>thermal ducting? -RickG
>
>
>
>
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