Nah, the Smart meter gives them incentive.  They can save a buck by not
having meter readers anymore and still gain a new revenue stream.  I looked
at the BPL map for Ohio, we used to only have a small test spot in Cinci but
it's in all sections of the state now.  But with that said, the electric
companies are used to being a public regulated company.  They make money in
spite of themselves so their customer service for any internet service they
may provide, I'm sure, will be as heavy handed and emotionless as the
electric service.  

Shared stream is okay, isn’t that what we do?   As long as he has some sort
of traffic shaping he'll be cool.  But 10mb is a bit on the low side, I must
say.  Dude, you're a CLEC!  Where's all your cheap fiber for this thing???




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:12 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings

Besides the Meter issue... its also a shared stream.  So you get 10Mb across
the whole building to share with all of your customers.  That might be an
issue, might not be.

I thought BPL was dead ;-D

I'd personally still vote for VDSL though

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>Behalf Of Robert West
>Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:46 PM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
>
>Then I'd go with the Broadband over power line.  Could also be a revenue
>stream if you can lease the converter and a router the end user.  Easy
>to
>install.  Plugs right into any electrical outlet in the apartment.  No
>need
>to worry about sharing Time Warner's cable, the electrical is part of
>the
>building!
>
>Bob-
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>Behalf Of Jeff Yette
>Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:29 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
>
>The Mikrotik might be the solution.  No DirectTV - we are in Time
>Warner territory so we competing in space where the apartments are
>wired with Coax that TW owns.
>
>On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Robert West<[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> I agree to that.  For what you are doing, the Mikrotik would be a no
>brainer
>> to decide on.  But that that, he's looking to install indoors with
>many
>> apartments.  All the cordless phones, microwave ovens, baby monitors,
>> wireless routers, PlayStations, Wii consoles and the like all about as
>close
>> as one could stand.  Oh, and dunno the location but I've seen way too
>many
>> of these apartment complexes where each and every balcony has a
>DirecTV
>dish
>> hung off it.  A huge wall of DirecTV bouncing all over.  With all this
>RF
>> concentrated in such a small place, what band should they be looking
>at as
>> well as antenna choice.  I think THAT would be hard part to see what
>would
>> work reliably before sinking cash into the accessories for that MT
>board.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>On
>> Behalf Of David E. Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:08 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings
>>
>> Jeff Yette wrote:
>>> To clarify, we are not looking for a hosted application, but more of
>a
>>> home-grown solution.  We have all of the components for billing,
>which
>>> will automatically create a radius account and e-mail, we have online
>>> billing and web-mail - the only part is the is missing is the web
>>> authentication piece.
>>
>> If you're willing to roll your own, Mikrotik RouterOS has built-in
>> hotspot functionality that can easily be configured to talk to your
>> RADIUS server of choice. The ugly-but-functional version can probably
>be
>> going in an hour; you'll want to make your own pretty login page and
>do
>> some other cosmetic tweaks, but those aren't too difficult either.
>>
>> David Smith
>> MVN.net
>>
>>
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