So then you're saying that you start replacing things, then AirMAX capable 
CPE will automatically reconnect as AirMAX when the AP enables it?


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From: "Michael Baird" <m...@tc3net.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:30 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?

> When you enable airmax on the AP, only airmax capable stations will see
> it and can connect to it.
> Airmax capable clients will be able to connect to non-airmax enabled
> AP's, they recognize airmax/non-airmax alike.
> You can not mix and match, you can't run legacy gear to a Airmax enabled
> AP, won't work.
> Which isn't a good thing, but it's Ubiquities statement on the subject,
> they say their older hardware can't handle airmax/tdma.
>
> Regards
> Michael Baird
>> But you cannot mix and match.... correct?
>> ryan
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Airmax is enabled when a Ubiquity product is in AP mode, it's a tick
>>> box. Airmax capable clients will autodetect whether the AP is airmax
>>> enabled or not.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Baird
>>>
>>>> Correct.
>>>> ryan
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ryan,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not correct. Your second example will not accept a 802.11G/N
>>>>> client. When airmax is enabled, no normal 802.11 client will even see
>>>>> the AP.
>>>>> You must disable airmax on the AP in order to handle normal clients, 
>>>>> you
>>>>> can't have some CPE's running in Airmax and some not running in 
>>>>> Airmax.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Michael Baird
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Be aware though, you cannot mix and match at the same time.For 
>>>>>> example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 Airmax AP and 10 Airmax enabled CPE = Airmax network.
>>>>>> 1 Airmax AP, 9 Airmax enabled CPE and 1 802.11G/N = 802.11G/N 
>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com>
>>>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure if this is clear, but with airmax enabled Ubiquity is
>>>>>>> proprietary, if you disable airmax it will work with other n/g
>>>>>>>
>>> clients,
>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think b is supported at this time. The firmware is rather
>>>>>>>
>>> young
>>>
>>>>>>> at this time as well, I'd wait a few releases before using these in
>>>>>>> production.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Michael Baird
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes by default it act as a regular 11n unit to get TDMA function 
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would enable airMAX function on the units. Kind of like with 
>>>>>>> MikroTik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> would enable Nstrem to get that functionality. As far as I know 
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> two
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> systems are not compatible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 11n is backwards compatible with a/b/g
>>>>>>>> So yes your scenario about upgrade path works just fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Eje
>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>>>>>> From: os10ru...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: WISPA General List
>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA?
>>>>>>>> Sent: Aug 26, 2009 06:40
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can the new UBNT M line gear be used as an 802.11n access point
>>>>>>>> without the TDMA? I'm assuming the TDMA protocol is proprietary and
>>>>>>>> that when using the TDMA protocol normal 802.11a/b/g gear doesn't
>>>>>>>> work. I'm also assuming the TDMA can be turned off which I realize
>>>>>>>> might not be the case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For example, could someone who's currently running an 802.11g AP
>>>>>>>> replace the AP with the new M gear but with the TDMA turned off 
>>>>>>>> (for
>>>>>>>> now), at their leisure change out  802.11g CPEs replacing them with
>>>>>>>> the M enabled ones (also with the TDMA turned off for now), and 
>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> all the CPEs have been upgraded and are M compliant throw the 
>>>>>>>> switch
>>>>>>>> and go TDMA in a smooth transition?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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