So then you're saying that you start replacing things, then AirMAX capable CPE will automatically reconnect as AirMAX when the AP enables it?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Baird" <m...@tc3net.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:30 AM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA? > When you enable airmax on the AP, only airmax capable stations will see > it and can connect to it. > Airmax capable clients will be able to connect to non-airmax enabled > AP's, they recognize airmax/non-airmax alike. > You can not mix and match, you can't run legacy gear to a Airmax enabled > AP, won't work. > Which isn't a good thing, but it's Ubiquities statement on the subject, > they say their older hardware can't handle airmax/tdma. > > Regards > Michael Baird >> But you cannot mix and match.... correct? >> ryan >> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Airmax is enabled when a Ubiquity product is in AP mode, it's a tick >>> box. Airmax capable clients will autodetect whether the AP is airmax >>> enabled or not. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Baird >>> >>>> Correct. >>>> ryan >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ryan, >>>>> >>>>> That's not correct. Your second example will not accept a 802.11G/N >>>>> client. When airmax is enabled, no normal 802.11 client will even see >>>>> the AP. >>>>> You must disable airmax on the AP in order to handle normal clients, >>>>> you >>>>> can't have some CPE's running in Airmax and some not running in >>>>> Airmax. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Michael Baird >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Be aware though, you cannot mix and match at the same time.For >>>>>> example: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1 Airmax AP and 10 Airmax enabled CPE = Airmax network. >>>>>> 1 Airmax AP, 9 Airmax enabled CPE and 1 802.11G/N = 802.11G/N >>>>>> network. >>>>>> >>>>>> ryan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Michael Baird <m...@tc3net.com> >>>>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not sure if this is clear, but with airmax enabled Ubiquity is >>>>>>> proprietary, if you disable airmax it will work with other n/g >>>>>>> >>> clients, >>> >>>>>>> I don't think b is supported at this time. The firmware is rather >>>>>>> >>> young >>> >>>>>>> at this time as well, I'd wait a few releases before using these in >>>>>>> production. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Michael Baird >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes by default it act as a regular 11n unit to get TDMA function >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> would enable airMAX function on the units. Kind of like with >>>>>>> MikroTik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> you >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> would enable Nstrem to get that functionality. As far as I know >>>>>>> these >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> two >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> systems are not compatible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 11n is backwards compatible with a/b/g >>>>>>>> So yes your scenario about upgrade path works just fine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /Eje >>>>>>>> ------Original Message------ >>>>>>>> From: os10ru...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>> ReplyTo: WISPA General List >>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] New UBNT M line, 802.11n without TDMA? >>>>>>>> Sent: Aug 26, 2009 06:40 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can the new UBNT M line gear be used as an 802.11n access point >>>>>>>> without the TDMA? I'm assuming the TDMA protocol is proprietary and >>>>>>>> that when using the TDMA protocol normal 802.11a/b/g gear doesn't >>>>>>>> work. I'm also assuming the TDMA can be turned off which I realize >>>>>>>> might not be the case. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For example, could someone who's currently running an 802.11g AP >>>>>>>> replace the AP with the new M gear but with the TDMA turned off >>>>>>>> (for >>>>>>>> now), at their leisure change out 802.11g CPEs replacing them with >>>>>>>> the M enabled ones (also with the TDMA turned off for now), and >>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>> all the CPEs have been upgraded and are M compliant throw the >>>>>>>> switch >>>>>>>> and go TDMA in a smooth transition? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> Greg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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