The facia is even better but since the discusion was roof mounting as a last resort I meant that if you must drill into the shingles, do it directly above the soffit. -RickG
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Josh Luthman<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Rick - you mean install on the fascia, not the roof. Correct? > > On 8/29/09, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I mean dont drill holes anywhere else on top of the roof - just the >> area above the soffit. That way if it happens to leak it will drip >> straight down through the soffit to the ground. >> >> The suggestion was correct and is what I do - place coax seal on the >> screw and between the mount & roof. Never had one leak yet and I've >> been doing installs since '97. Some of my installers a lot longer. >> >> -RickG >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Josh >> Luthman<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> What do you mean stay above the soffit? Sounds kind of impossible to >>> mount >>> below it when you're mounting on the roof. >>> >>> The suggestion I had from the past is to use my favorite material (coax >>> seal) on the tip of the screw before you start drilling. This puts the >>> sealer in the threads (name?) and a bit below the head, preventing >>> anything >>> from going through the hole. I do not do this, though I have not needed >>> to >>> and the person that did this is not installing for me anymore (he moved on >>> to what he really wanted, knew this from years back). >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>> improbable, must be the truth." >>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:52 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ya, sometimes you just have to mount on roof. Last resort of course. I >>>> was trained by career satellite installers. The trick is putting seal >>>> down and running the screws through it. Also, stay above the soffit. I >>>> always get the home owners permission. >>>> >>>> On the brick, I use mortar screws. They work great. >>>> >>>> So Marlon - you like the Bosch better than the Dewalt? >>>> -RickG >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Marlon K. Schafer<o...@odessaoffice.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > We mount to the roof when we have to. Last resort but there are times >>>> when >>>> > it's the only option. >>>> > >>>> > We put down silicone then run the mounting screws though that. Never >>>> > had >>>> a >>>> > leak. People have been mounting things on roofs for a very very long >>>> time. >>>> > >>>> > As for brick, we use GOOD plastic anchors and longer screws than they >>>> would >>>> > normally have. None have fallen off yet. When running the cable I >>>> > drill >>>> > the anchor holes into the mortar instead of the brick. >>>> > >>>> > I finally broke down and bought a nearly top of the line Bosch hammer >>>> drill. >>>> > The DeWalt cordless is nice, but it's not really capable of dealing >>>> > with >>>> > high end brick or concrete. >>>> > >>>> > laters, >>>> > marlon >>>> > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM >>>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > What's so bad about brick? I would imagine there is lags made for it >>>> > (not the mortor). 've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to >>>> > tuck/hide the cable so there is no damage. >>>> > >>>> > On 8/28/09, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote: >>>> >> I agree, I will never again install on a roof. That cost me money >>>> once, >>>> >> not again. Can't even tell you how many homeowners have thanked us >>>> >> for >>>> >> not >>>> >> installing on the roof. They hate their satellite dish being up there >>>> and >>>> >> are willing to pay extra for anything to keep it off the roof. What I >>>> >> hate >>>> >> is brick homes. No way to mount no way to run cable and for some >>>> >> reason >>>> >> those are always the people who have their computers on an inside >>>> >> wall, >>>> >> are >>>> >> tighter than ticks and don't want to pay for anything but the standard >>>> >> install. >>>> >> >>>> >> Steve Barnes >>>> >> Manager >>>> >> PCS-WIN >>>> >> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service >>>> >> >>>> >> Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through >>>> >> experience >>>> >> of >>>> >> trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, >>>> ambition >>>> >> inspired, and success achieved. >>>> >> - Helen Keller >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>> >> On >>>> >> Behalf Of Robert West >>>> >> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 AM >>>> >> To: 'WISPA General List' >>>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions >>>> >> >>>> >> I have a big problem with making holes in a roof. I just don't! >>>> >> >>>> >> Reason is, any drip or drop then becomes the internet guys fault no >>>> matter >>>> >> if the roof is 40 years old and missing half the shingles already. >>>> >> Too >>>> >> many >>>> >> people out to "gotcha". And the ones who ask to see our liability >>>> >> insurance >>>> >> before we do anything....... Red flags! They turn out to be >>>> nightmares, >>>> >> we >>>> >> get permission in writing from those folks for every hole drilled. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>> >> On >>>> >> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:21 PM >>>> >> To: WISPA General List >>>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions >>>> >> >>>> >> Tripods like roof hole making tripods? >>>> >> >>>> >> On 8/27/09, Brian Rohrbacher <br...@reliableinter.net> wrote: >>>> >>> I guess I'm just old fashioned using tripods and 10 ft masts. Channel >>>> >>> master. Tripods are $18 and masts are $11. We charge $30 for the >>>> tripods >>>> >>> and $15 for 10ft mast including install. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Brian >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Scott Reed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 4" length of strut at the peak. >>>> >>>> 5' length of strut down where ever it falls on the eaves. >>>> >>>> Strut pipe clamp to fit pipe. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> /\ >>>> >>>> /-\ >>>> >>>> / \ >>>> >>>> / \ >>>> >>>> /--------\ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> 'splain please! How is that configured? Thanks. >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> At 10:50 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> ... We now mount 2 pieces of 1-5/8" >>>> >>>>>> Unistrut with 1/4" lags and clamp the pipe to it. >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> ---- >>>> >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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