heh, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal

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From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question

> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul
> Rice<paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com> wrote:
>> Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle 
>> approx
>> 13 inches long
>
> I knew that but couldnt figure out why you specified "horizontal". I
> guess you might have said  Folks like 900 MHz due to the size of the
> wave cycle approx 13 inches long.
>
> Thanks! -RickG
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Paul
> Rice<paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com> wrote:
>> same size.  The electromagnetic wave is the same, polarity refers to the
>> orientation of the wave. up and down or side to side.
>> 13 inches is the wavelength (length of a single cycle).
>>
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>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:33 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
>>
>>> The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul
>>> Rice<paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com> wrote:
>>>> Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle
>>>> approx
>>>> 13 inches long
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
>>>>
>>>>> But look at all the experience you are gaining :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert 
>>>>> West<robert.w...@just-micro.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Why horizontal polarity?  Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to
>>>>>> 900mhz
>>>>>> and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> what I'm not supposed to do.  But, also as my luck runs, the opposite
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> what I try first will work  So it actually won't matter what I do
>>>>>> including
>>>>>> sitting the antennas 5 feet in front of each other, it will never 
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> first time out.  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Tim Edwards
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> my experience.
>>>>>> Why horizontal pol?  Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, 
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> least with the NorCal
>>>>>> foliage we have here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>>>> Tim Edwards, Chief Engineer         t...@telescience.net
>>>>>> TeleScience Networks             http://telescience.net
>>>>>> 11101 Hiway 1, #102                        415-663-8891
>>>>>> Point Reyes Station, CA 94956-1375
>>>>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>>> I find that the Trango 900 can handle the noise and capacity much
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> than MikroTik/XR9.  I have a few hundred on Trango and it works 
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> imo than XR9's.  Canopy's GPS synch is the only reason I would 
>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>> their 900MHz option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg
>>>>>>> Shelby Broadband
>>>>>>> 502-722-9292
>>>>>>> ch...@shelbybb.com
>>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Robert West
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days.  We have 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> 2.5
>>>>>>> mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25
>>>>>>> miles
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> that running right over a creek.  Doing it on the cheap, or trying 
>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>> 2 Mikrotik 411 boards on both sides running a transparent bridge 
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> XR9
>>>>>>> cards attached to a pac wireless grid antenna setup with horizontal
>>>>>>> polarity.  The antennas are up and the boxes are configured, just 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to go
>>>>>>> out tonight or tomorrow and run power to them and try to see what 
>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> throughput we can get, if any.  Haven't tried it before but we'll 
>>>>>>> see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:38 PM
>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've been using the Trango 900Mhz gear and are familiar with canopy
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it's abilities.  How does a Mikrotik with something like a XR9 
>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>> in terms of penetration and throughput when paired with a Ubiquity
>>>>>>> CPE?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick Nix, Jr.,
>>>>>>> Computer Network Solutions
>>>>>>> CSWEB.NET Internet Services
>>>>>>> IT Manager
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
>>>>>>> http://www.csweb.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (918) 235-0414
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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