Some utilities either mark the top of the communications space or are
required to do so by the local PUC. Locally here in Idaho, its at the
discretion of the pole owner.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Sales <[email protected]> wrote:

> Can we send pics to this list? I noticed on most poles between power
> and nonpower lines there is a plastic looking black ring wrapped
> around the pole. Is this a marker of sort for seperation?
>
> John Buwa
> Michiana Wireless,Inc
> 574-233-7170
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 9, 2009, at 8:51 PM, AJ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The work we do with Idaho Power here requires us to be 30" below the
> > lowest
> > conductor (grounded neutral in our case) from power and 40" from the
> > lowest
> > primary distribution. However, if triplex is coming off the pole
> > (secondary
> > single phase 120/240v from transformer to house, basically the power
> > drop),
> > we have to be 40" below the attachment point of the secondary and
> > 30" apart
> > at the lowest sag point mid-span.
> >
> > The 40" applies to basically primary below 13kv... Above 13kv, i.e.
> > 14.4kv
> > or 24.94 kv, we have to be at least 43" below the lowest primary
> > conductor
> > or any part of the insulator of the conductor at a cross arm.
> >
> > As far as attachment at the pole, we're required to maintain 12"
> > between the
> > centers of the attachment bolts between CATV, Phone and any other
> > communications provider, i.e. point to point fiber, alarm,
> > government fiber,
> > etc. Any amplifier or other device on the line, including drip loops
> > on
> > hardline coax, have to maintain 6" clearance from any other
> > communications
> > cable.
> >
> > With that being said, for new attachments with ice loading, we have to
> > maintain the lowest possible sag of 15' 6" which leaves us at
> > between 17'
> > and 19' AGL at the attachment. Combine this is a transformer and
> > residential
> > triplex drop leaves you with three, sometimes less, eligible
> > communications
> > attachments on the majority of the shorter 45' and 55' poles.
> >
> > In some of our more crowded corridors, we've gone to cross arms
> > where we can
> > load up 4 to 6 utilities horizontally rather than vertically,
> > however, this
> > is usually to compensate for sag at mid span or too short of a pole
> > for 6
> > attachments to begin with.
> >
> > You're looking for NESC Joint Use with is between sections 230 and
> > 238 I
> > believe...
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Sales <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Does anyone know exactly what the nesc codes for fiber on poles are?
> >> We have a run that we want to do and the poles are kinda crowded. The
> >> electric company told us the phone company has to stay on bottom and
> >> there has to be certain gaps. If they have to move people up to make
> >> room they may need to replace poles at our cost. He said we can be
> >> the
> >> judge for free if we follow nesc codes and estimate if we can find a
> >> gap anywhere. So what exactly are we looking for ?
> >>
> >>
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