WDS and nstreme can be used with wireless-test I hear. Before that it was not workable at all.
Any load seems to kill your links - that has to be kept on mind. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Tom DeReggi <[email protected]>wrote: > > Well your problem reminded me of wds + nstreme problem is why I > > brought it up. I believe wireless-test will fix this. > > How can WDS and NStreme be used togeather? > I thought it had to be one or the other? > > > Any way you could test the links disconnected from the rest of the > > network and see if stressing the links drops it? > > Will do that if necessary, after firmware update. > > > Are the links losing wireless association? > > Yes, they do when it reaches Zero mbps, then immediately restablishes > association. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Problem - 900Mhz-WDS-incremental speed > degradetp Zero then drop- repeat. > > > > Well your problem reminded me of wds + nstreme problem is why I > > brought it up. I believe wireless-test will fix this. > > > > Any way you could test the links disconnected from the rest of the > > network and see if stressing the links drops it? > > > > Are the links losing wireless association? > > > > On 9/16/09, Tom DeReggi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No I am not using nstreme now. > >> > >> However, to expand on the conversations....and history of the job.... I > >> am > >> using WDS because that is the standard configuration that has always > >> worked > >> for us. We have a central routing platform at the nearest regional tower > >> and > >> bandwdith manage via VLAN, so we wanted all our leg radios to be true > >> bridges, for easy consistent management of IP space. Many of our MT > >> isntalls > >> are configured for VLAN. When we originally selected WDS for our > standard > >> config, taht was like 3 years ago, with the earlier MT 2.X versions, and > >> some of teh alternate methods did not properly work as stated in manual. > >> For > >> example, back then Station WDS didn't work right. Now a couple years > >> later, > >> and up to many version of 3.X, we want to re-investigate what is best > >> practices. > >> > >> In this particular case, Subscriber A had to be a true bridge for > various > >> reasons so used WDS. But SubscriberB was an end user residential client, > >> connected with a Linksys router, and could have worked fine as a > standard > >> wifi client. What we tried to do first was setup a Virtual AP. Leave > >> Custoemr A on WDS, and then setup CustomerB as a standard wifi station > on > >> the Virtual AP standard AP. But we couldn't get the Virtual AP to pass > >> traffic. We weren't sure if it was a config mistake or a incompatible > >> configuration, doing both WDS and Virtual AP on the same WLAN. So that > is > >> why we reconfigured everything back to all WDS. > >> > >> We are looking for alternate configuration options, if better. In this > >> particular case, we were very concerned about hidden node type issues, > >> and > >> concerned using regular WDS for both clients could cause significant > >> Hideen > >> Node type colissions or self interference. SubA was like 5 miles away, > >> and > >> pushes much larger amount of traffic, SubB was like 1 mile away, and low > >> use > >> residential. We were concerned Residential SubB could get performance > >> issues > >> because of SubA's traffic use. We were debating whether NStreme w/ > >> polling > >> would have been the best configuration for the solution. Does NStreme > >> polling allow full bridging like WDS? > >> > >> Do you have any recommendations on best practice config now for MT PTMP, > >> (without routing)? > >> > >> Tom DeReggi > >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> > >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:42 PM > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Problem - 900Mhz-WDS-incremental speed > >> degradetp Zero then drop- repeat. > >> > >> > >>> You're not using nstreme are you? > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > >>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > >>> improbable, must be the truth." > >>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Tom DeReggi > >>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> > >>>> I have a problem with Mikrotik I have not been able to solve. > Wondering > >>>> if > >>>> anyone has any insight. > >>>> > >>>> A summary config is.... > >>>> > >>>> I have a 433AH setup as AP with 1 XR900 and 1 R5H (5.8Ghz). The Cat5 > >>>> Ethernet port goes to a SMC VLAN switch, where the SMC tags and untags > >>>> VLAN > >>>> ID, and continues to the Backhaul Radio. My point here is the MT > itself > >>>> does > >>>> not have any VLAN configured. > >>>> > >>>> I need everything to act as a True Bridge, so I'm using WDS on > >>>> everything. > >>>> Both mPCI cards are set up as "AP" and then WDS interfaces configured. > >>>> The R5H sector has one subscriber, so there is one WDS interface > >>>> created > >>>> for > >>>> that. The XR900 has two subscriber points. So there are two WDS > >>>> interfaces > >>>> set up for the XR900 sector, one for each subscriber. So all three > WDS > >>>> interaces and the Ethernet (to backhaul) are all bridged togeather > >>>> under > >>>> one > >>>> Bridge. > >>>> > >>>> SubscriberA has a 433AH also, and actually is a repeater site. So it > >>>> has > >>>> two > >>>> mPCI each configured for WDS, and then the WDS ports bridged > togeather. > >>>> The > >>>> primary mPCI that connects to the above first AP, is set for WDS > Slave. > >>>> This subscriberA (repeater radio) works normally. I can run MT > >>>> bandwdith > >>>> test continually at consistent speed. > >>>> > >>>> As well, the subscriber for the R5H sector above also is set up for > WDS > >>>> Salve, and works properly, and tests consistently with Bandwdith test. > >>>> > >>>> SubscriberB for 900Mhz sector is the problem. It is a RB411 w/ a > 24V-1A > >>>> PS, > >>>> w/ XR900. Originally it was set for WDS Slave also. It is now set for > >>>> WDS > >>>> Station, and performs the same as if WDS Slave. When running MT > >>>> Bandwdith > >>>> test both UDP or TCP, Sitting at the 433AH AP's winbox, I get the > >>>> following > >>>> results.... TXing it works perfectly and consistently. > >>>> But if doing a receive test.... It starts out at about 800 kbps, then > >>>> slowly > >>>> reduces speed incrementally, down to 500 kbps, to 300kbps, to 100kbps, > >>>> etc, > >>>> down to Zero. When it reaches Zero mbps, the radio link disconnects, > >>>> and > >>>> immediately restarts itself. Speed starts back up at 800 kbps or so, > >>>> and > >>>> the > >>>> same thing repeats. If doing Bi-directional tests of course the same > >>>> thing > >>>> applies, because it receives also. > >>>> > >>>> Noise is low at teh SU, about -67, and -74 at AP. At first I thought > >>>> it > >>>> was > >>>> noise at the IP, because occastionally SNR gets very low. .But.... > >>>> SubscriberA has a lower signal at -84 and does not experience the same > >>>> problem. Just for grins, I tried playing around with TRansmit power > at > >>>> the > >>>> SubscriberB, but that had no positive effect. As well, as a test, I > >>>> disabled the second WDS interface to SubscriberA, and no change. > >>>> > >>>> To be clear... SubscriberA and SubscriberB each have their own WDS > >>>> interface > >>>> configured on WLAN1 of the 433AH AP. > >>>> I am using embedded MTOS V 3.10 on each. > >>>> > >>>> What is causing this problem? Why is speed received from my > >>>> SubscriberB > >>>> incrementally degrading and breaking link? > >>>> > >>>> Bridge loops? Is my config valid? RB411 Bug? > >>>> > >>>> Tom DeReggi > >>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > >>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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