I don't see it using a lot of bandwidth, and it seems to burst pretty 
quickly when I do see the traffic.  But, if the game has to keep 
track of his position relative to the other players, wouldn't that 
require a fairly constant packet exchange with the "server?"

At 08:37 AM 10/5/2009, you wrote:
>I think the NAT isn't the issue here. The nat gets to the xbox when it
>comes to A. connecting to a game. or B. Hosting a game.
>Once they are in a game it shouldn't be a nat issue.
>The xbox 360 doesn't use much when it comes bandwidth. But think about it
>more like a VOIP call. Its very sensitive to jitter and packet loss.
>Also, When it comes to the xbox world the servers aren't always up to par.
>This is because most games have the user hosting a "server" and everyone
>connects to that person. Well most people don't have the internet for that.
>Or they are far away and the latency just getting to them is bad. So you
>may not be the bad guy here.
>
>Nick Olsen
>Brevard Wireless
>(321) 205-1100 x106
>
>
>----------------------------------------
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>From: "jp" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:39 AM
>To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360
>
>I think double nat can cause a problem for that sometimes. A low quality
>home firewall/router can also contribute. Lend the customer a different
>router and see if that helps.
>
>On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 06:18:57AM -0500, Mike wrote:
> > They ARE behind a double nat.  They are a rural pocket of family I
> > feed with a sector, then have a repeater on one of the buildings.  I
> > put a robust client in the house, and a switch.  This one has a long
> > Ethernet cable from the switch to the XBox.  They tested at almost 2M
> > down and almost 3M up.
> >
> > Have you set up QOS queues for XBox?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > At 10:15 PM 10/4/2009, you wrote:
> > >What kind of network topology do you have between your head end and
>their
> > >Xbox?  Two or more layers of NAT, from what I read, bother the Xbox.
> > >
> > >What kind of bandwidth does he get after a speed test?  Xbox uses a lot
>more
> > >then I expect.  I remember at a LAN party the 1.5 meg T1 was full by
>3-4
> > >Xboxes.
> > >
> > >Josh Luthman
> > >Office: 937-552-2340
> > >Direct: 937-552-2343
> > >1100 Wayne St
> > >Suite 1337
> > >Troy, OH 45373
> > >
> > >"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> > >improbable, must be the truth."
> > >--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > >
> > > > I at least 15% of my customers use 360 and none have problems...  and
>two
> > > > of
> > > > them (myself included) are highly intolerant of network issues.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----
> > > > Mike Hammett
> > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > > > http://www.ics-il.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > From: "Mike"
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:41 PM
> > > > To: ; "WISPA General List"
> > > > Subject: [WISPA] XBOX 360
> > > >
> > > > > I have a couple XBOX 360 players saying they are having lag
> > > > > issues.  It seems a low bandwidth consumer.  How are you guys
> > > > > optimizing for them?  I'd like to try and make them happier. Is
>there
> > > > > a down side?
> > > > >
> > > > > I know Marlon asked last winter but a good answer never appeared on
>the
> > > > > list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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