They're politicians. They only have to be able to say they offered cash, actually handing it over is less than secondary.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth They got that all backwards though at the FCC. First auction off 700 Mhz and then give all these ISP's a shot at $$$. But, then again, I don't think the FCC had us WISP's in mind that much with the stimulus money? Scottie ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Robert West" <[email protected]> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:39:09 -0400 >Exactly! So instead, they want to squander it and hope to get cash from >selling or big license fees. A little bit backwards, don't ya think. So >they give out a few billion bucks and it still doesn't cover 50%. If they >would even just light license good spectrum we'd be all over it with no >stimulus cash needed and the benefits would pay off tremendously for >everyone, not just the WISP operator. But then again, it would quickly be >monopolized by the new Wal-Mart division, WISP-Mart. They would import >cheap bandwidth from China, putting our domestic bandwidth factories out of >business. The electrons wouldn't last as long and the information would be >inferior........... On second thought, maybe it's just better this way. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf Of Josh Luthman >Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:30 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth > >Imagine WISPs using 700mhz to service their customers. No stimulus package >needed. > >Josh Luthman >Office: 937-552-2340 >Direct: 937-552-2343 >1100 Wayne St >Suite 1337 >Troy, OH 45373 > >"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >improbable, must be the truth." >--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > >On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Bingo! >> >> Sent from my Motorola Startac... >> >> >> On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:15 PM, "Robert West" <robert.w...@just- >> micro.com> wrote: >> >> > I think the major barrier to wisp growth is lack of quality, NLOS >> > spectrum. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> > On >> > Behalf Of Marco Coelho >> > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:21 AM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth >> > >> > Patrick, >> > >> > Not being one for gov money.... >> > >> > We have excellent credit. We have that because we only expand at a >> > rate the will allow funding (new business) to cover our costs. So the >> > cycle goes: >> > >> > 1. Build out X number of Towers. >> > 2. Market X number of Areas. >> > 3. Install Customers to X*Y until well funded. >> > >> > Repeat. >> > >> > I think a lot of the companies that take stimulus money are going to >> > go under in the long run. They will go like the dot-coms. Build >> > build Build.... Ah shit no revenue! >> > >> > That being said, we are vertical, all workers work for the company. >> > That is the only way you can control quality. Good employees are very >> > hard to find. For every 100-200 applications/resumes, maybe 10 are >> > worth talking to seriously. You're lucky to find 1 that is worth >> > hiring. >> > >> > Always a ray of sunshine! >> > >> > Marco Coelho >> > Argon Technologies Inc. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Patrick, >> >> >> >> #1- Labor: There is very little skilled resources here. >> >> #2- Funding: Especially for labor. Normal financing channels are >> >> available but I will not take on too much debt at one time. >> >> #3- Time: There is little extra time to dedicate towards expansion >> >> versus daily operations. >> >> >> >> Notes- >> >> Employees: Too small to enjoy such a "luxury". >> >> Stimulus: I don't believe in it and did not apply. >> >> Technologies: Proprietary equipment are a bit too expensive unless >> >> you >> >> buy CPE in 100 packs. Even then, the AP's are still expensive. >> >> >> >> -RickG >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Patrick Leary <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Regardless of your tech choice -- Moto, 802.11-based, WiMAX or >> >>> other, I >> >>> am interested to know what are the greatest barriers to growth and >> >>> why? >> >>> >> >>> Some possibilities: >> >>> Is it funding and if so, are your normal channels for money frozen >> >>> or >> >>> otherwise gone? >> >>> Is it competition? If so, how specifically. >> >>> Are you constrained from hiring due to high cost of employee >> >>> benefits >> >>> (e.g. health insurance)? >> >>> Are you stalled waiting for response from your stimulus application? >> >>> Are you stalled trying to defend against someone else's stimulus >> >>> application that would include your market? >> >>> Are the current technologies too expensive or technicall >> >>> inadequate to >> >>> deliver what you need to compete? >> >>> >> >>> Patrick Leary >> >>> Aperto Networks >> >>> 813.426.4230 mobile >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > --- >> > --- >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ---- >> >>> WISPA Wants You! 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