It's not a compatibility issue, it is a should and shall issue.

There is no IEEE standard or RFC for port auto-negotiation so Cisco
does not have one. (period).

ryan

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cisco makes great routers but their switches suck. They have port
> compatability issues with other equipment.
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> There are tons of great Cisco Switches going for cheap on the secondary
>> markets in that price range and port density...
>>
>> I think the orignial poster of the email thread was looking for something
>> small, hardend, low power for outdoor application.
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
>> Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Jayson Baker
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:45 PM
>> To: [email protected]; WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches
>>
>> Not really, but if MT would come out with a RouterBoard that had 12, 24, 48
>> ports and was under $300 we'd buy a *ton* of them.
>> I wouldn't think it'd be that difficult, actually.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > BTW, quick question, anyone out there using Router Boards as l3 Switches
>> ?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> > Faisal Imtiaz
>> > Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
>> > Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On Behalf Of Nick Olsen
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:53 PM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches
>> >
>> > This is my main complaint with the 1800-8G and the 1800-24G
>> >
>> > I've asked procurve to add these 3 features and got a standard "we'll
>> > think about it" answer.
>> >
>> > 1. Ability to label ports
>> > 2. Ability to label vlans
>> > 3. Ability to disable a port
>> >
>> > All very simple requests that can't take much in terms of
>> > memory/firmware size to implement.
>> >
>> > In terms of speed, stability, function other then the above, its a
>> > awesome switch.
>> >
>> > Nick Olsen
>> > Brevard Wireless
>> > (321) 205-1100 x106
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------
>> >
>> > From: "Tom DeReggi" <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:42 PM
>> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "WISPA
>> > General List" <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches
>> >
>> > There are several classes of VLAN switches.
>> >
>> > I'll use SMC as an example...
>> >
>> > 1) They have the higher end models that are Full VLAN support that are
>> > very
>> >
>> > intuitive and fully flexible. For example, they'll allow you to label
>> > each
>> >
>> > port in web interface. They fully refer to each ports specifying their
>> > Egress and Ingress VLAn support, etc.  They allow every thing to be done.
>> > But because they are intuitive, in the web interface itself,  its easy
>> > to configure them without accidentally misconfiguring another clients.
>> > They make great switches that will act as both Trunk backbone switches
>> > and end location switches.
>> >
>> > 2) then they have lower end model. They let one do almost everything
>> > with VLAN. But they are way less intuitive. And they dont work as well
>> > for dual
>> >
>> > purpose, and tend to work better as a backbone or end location switch.
>> > They
>> >
>> > lack abilty to label ports.They have confusing terminology to enable
>> > or disable like "VLAN Aware" that may not be specific on what VLAN
>> > functionality is enabled by making it aware.
>> > It usually takes a quick read of the manual before making a config,
>> > because
>> >
>> > the logic is not straight forward. Many Web Switches are like this.
>> >
>> > SMC and Intellinet have affordable 8 port VLAN switches that are
>> > functional, but with the firmware that is equivellent to low end VLAN
>> > switches as described in #2 above.
>> > But I beleive both have text, SNMP, serial, and Web interfaces, which
>> > give
>> >
>> > them a step up over other basic web switch products.
>> > Both models sell under $200, and have atleast 2 Gigabit ports,
>> > possibly SPF
>> >
>> > ports.
>> >
>> > I just wish someone made a 8 port VLAN switch for the low dollar cost,
>> > that
>> >
>> > had the HIGH END INTUITIVE VLAN firmware, that allowed each port to be
>> > labled in software.
>> >
>> > Tom DeReggi
>> > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]>
>> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:07 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches
>> >
>> > > Well, there is the Procurve 1800-8G that is 8 ports gigabit,
>> > > Management
>> > is
>> > > a little light, but it will do the simple stuff. like vlans and such.
>> > > They are fanless and we have them on towers, bullet proof all day long.
>> > >
>> > > Nick Olsen
>> > > Brevard Wireless
>> > > (321) 205-1100 x106
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > > From: "Marco Coelho" <[email protected]>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:53 PM
>> > > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> > > Subject: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches
>> > >
>> > > I'm looking for suggestions for small (8+ ports) Managed switches.
>> > > They would be installed in NEMA 4 un-cooled enclosures in the Texas
>> > > heat.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Marco C. Coelho
>> > > Argon Technologies Inc.
>> > > POB 875
>> > > Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>> > > 903-455-5036
>> > >
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