Ryan, I agree with your second statement but my statement is correct according to the dictionary:
compatible/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhm-pat-uh-buhl] Show IPA –adjective 1. capable of existing or living together in harmony: the most compatible married couple I know. 2. able to exist together with something else: Prejudice is not compatible with true religion. 3. consistent; congruous (often fol. by with): His claims are not compatible with the facts. 4. Computers. a. (of software) capable of being run on another computer without change. b. (of hardware) capable of being connected to another device without the use of special equipment or software. 5. Electronics. (of a device, signal, etc.) capable of being used with equipment in a system without the need for special modification or conversion. 6. noting a system of television in which color broadcasts can be received on ordinary sets in black and white. –noun 7. something, as a machine or piece of electronic equipment, that is designed to perform the same tasks as another, often in the same way and using virtually identical parts, programmed instructions, etc.: Software written for one computer will probably run on its close compatibles. -RickG On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Ryan Spott <[email protected]> wrote: > It's not a compatibility issue, it is a should and shall issue. > > There is no IEEE standard or RFC for port auto-negotiation so Cisco > does not have one. (period). > > ryan > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > > Cisco makes great routers but their switches suck. They have port > > compatability issues with other equipment. > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> There are tons of great Cisco Switches going for cheap on the secondary > >> markets in that price range and port density... > >> > >> I think the orignial poster of the email thread was looking for > something > >> small, hardend, low power for outdoor application. > >> > >> > >> Faisal Imtiaz > >> Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net > >> Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of Jayson Baker > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:45 PM > >> To: [email protected]; WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches > >> > >> Not really, but if MT would come out with a RouterBoard that had 12, 24, > 48 > >> ports and was under $300 we'd buy a *ton* of them. > >> I wouldn't think it'd be that difficult, actually. > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > BTW, quick question, anyone out there using Router Boards as l3 > Switches > >> ? > >> > > >> > Thanks. > >> > > >> > > >> > Faisal Imtiaz > >> > Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net > >> > Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >> > On Behalf Of Nick Olsen > >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:53 PM > >> > To: WISPA General List > >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches > >> > > >> > This is my main complaint with the 1800-8G and the 1800-24G > >> > > >> > I've asked procurve to add these 3 features and got a standard "we'll > >> > think about it" answer. > >> > > >> > 1. Ability to label ports > >> > 2. Ability to label vlans > >> > 3. Ability to disable a port > >> > > >> > All very simple requests that can't take much in terms of > >> > memory/firmware size to implement. > >> > > >> > In terms of speed, stability, function other then the above, its a > >> > awesome switch. > >> > > >> > Nick Olsen > >> > Brevard Wireless > >> > (321) 205-1100 x106 > >> > > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > From: "Tom DeReggi" <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:42 PM > >> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "WISPA > >> > General List" <[email protected]> > >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches > >> > > >> > There are several classes of VLAN switches. > >> > > >> > I'll use SMC as an example... > >> > > >> > 1) They have the higher end models that are Full VLAN support that are > >> > very > >> > > >> > intuitive and fully flexible. For example, they'll allow you to label > >> > each > >> > > >> > port in web interface. They fully refer to each ports specifying their > >> > Egress and Ingress VLAn support, etc. They allow every thing to be > done. > >> > But because they are intuitive, in the web interface itself, its easy > >> > to configure them without accidentally misconfiguring another clients. > >> > They make great switches that will act as both Trunk backbone switches > >> > and end location switches. > >> > > >> > 2) then they have lower end model. They let one do almost everything > >> > with VLAN. But they are way less intuitive. And they dont work as well > >> > for dual > >> > > >> > purpose, and tend to work better as a backbone or end location switch. > >> > They > >> > > >> > lack abilty to label ports.They have confusing terminology to enable > >> > or disable like "VLAN Aware" that may not be specific on what VLAN > >> > functionality is enabled by making it aware. > >> > It usually takes a quick read of the manual before making a config, > >> > because > >> > > >> > the logic is not straight forward. Many Web Switches are like this. > >> > > >> > SMC and Intellinet have affordable 8 port VLAN switches that are > >> > functional, but with the firmware that is equivellent to low end VLAN > >> > switches as described in #2 above. > >> > But I beleive both have text, SNMP, serial, and Web interfaces, which > >> > give > >> > > >> > them a step up over other basic web switch products. > >> > Both models sell under $200, and have atleast 2 Gigabit ports, > >> > possibly SPF > >> > > >> > ports. > >> > > >> > I just wish someone made a 8 port VLAN switch for the low dollar cost, > >> > that > >> > > >> > had the HIGH END INTUITIVE VLAN firmware, that allowed each port to be > >> > labled in software. > >> > > >> > Tom DeReggi > >> > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > >> > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]> > >> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:07 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches > >> > > >> > > Well, there is the Procurve 1800-8G that is 8 ports gigabit, > >> > > Management > >> > is > >> > > a little light, but it will do the simple stuff. like vlans and > such. > >> > > They are fanless and we have them on towers, bullet proof all day > long. > >> > > > >> > > Nick Olsen > >> > > Brevard Wireless > >> > > (321) 205-1100 x106 > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ---------------------------------------- > >> > > > >> > > From: "Marco Coelho" <[email protected]> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:53 PM > >> > > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > >> > > Subject: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches > >> > > > >> > > I'm looking for suggestions for small (8+ ports) Managed switches. > >> > > They would be installed in NEMA 4 un-cooled enclosures in the Texas > >> > > heat. > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Marco C. 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