I know I've been through this many times, but most people don't even know what's available in their area. I try my best, but I can't know what fiber is available in everyone's backyard.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Butch Evans" <but...@butchevans.com> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:44 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increased data delivery is here to stay. >> At 03:09 PM 11/12/2009, you wrote: >> >I've been watching the thread about it with great interest. Partly >> >because I was wondering if anyone was going to try "my solution", which >> >is, >> >to attempt to be able to deliver the bandwidth to the people who want to >> >use >> >these, and have them work fine. >> > >> >Please understand, I'm not talking about a prioritizing scheme, which >> >puts >> >video ahead of surfing, etc. > > This is a good point. The fact is, that a GOOD bandwidth manager will > allow traffic to flow as fast as possible. One thing to bear in mind, > with regard to my QOS system, is that I don't speed limit ANYTHING. I > simply prioritize traffic so that the time sensitive stuff gets out > first. There is no reason to limit even P2P if there is available > bandwidth. Every class that I give that covers QOS, I restate this one > maxim: "QOS is not simply LIMITING bandwidth. Rather, QOS is about > MANAGING the available bandwidth resources." There is an important > distinction there that your comments don't take into account. > >> >We're thinking about how we're going to meet the demands of the near >> >future... not managing a shortage of bandwidth delivery. > > Even with sufficient bandwidth available, there are links and network > infrastructure where a good QOS mechanism will benefit the network. > >> >I'm thinking of planning on a future delivery of 4 to 6 meg per >> >customer, >> >oversubscribed to around 4 to 6 to one. > > For many, 4:1 would mean out of business. Even at 10:1, many would not > survive. There are places in this country where bandwidth is still > quite expensive ($200/Meg would sound GOOD to some people). Even at > that price, a 4:1 ratio is $50/customer before you add in ANY costs. > Even 10:1 is to high. It would be NICE if the price for wholesale BW > came down, but too many folks do not have the benefit of reasonable > bandwidth. > -- > ******************************************************************** > * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* > * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * > * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * > * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * > ******************************************************************** > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
