On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 10:40 -0800, Joe Miller wrote: 
> Make it a plug-n-play for us non Mikrotik people and I would say "sold".

DONE!  LOL.  I don't sell a "script".  I sell the installation of a
system, which will include installation, configuration, customization
(to an extent) and basic instruction and troubleshooting "guide".  This
system is very complex and not a simple "plug and play" type approach.
I promise to make it easy on you, as a customer, though.  :-)

> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Butch Evans <[email protected]>
> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 11:39:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.
> 
> On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 10:54 -0500, [email protected] wrote: 
> > I looked at http://www.mikrotik.com/download/l7-protos.rsc but didnt find 
> > anything existing for L7 and netflix. Does anyone have one they are using?
> 
> I don't think one exists.  It's one reason I'm working on the "smart
> QOS" system.  It will react even when we encounter an "unknown"
> protocol/service.  I've been "packet sniffing" all morning looking for
> various streaming services.  Currently, I can accurately detect youtube
> (and all other similar services), Hulu (a very easy one) and a few
> others.  I did a test just a few minutes ago with my current
> implementation.  Here's how it worked:
> 
> 1. Set my bandwidth to 1M download speed ("total_down_speed")
> 2. Guarantee speed of 768k for "primary" or "normal" traffic queues
> 3. Guarantee speed of 256k for "secondary" or "bad" traffic queues
> 4. Priority queues within each of those (priority1-priority8)
> 5. mangle rules do the following:
> a. Set http to prio1_normal
> b. watch http traffic for "large downloads" or streams
> c. Set downloads >10M<20M to prio4_normal after the first 10M has
> downloaded (streams at the same point)
> d. Set downloads >20M to prio1_bad 
> 
> In my test, I started 2 downloads and one stream (netflix, actually).
> These 3 shared about equally 1M of bandwidth, with each getting around
> 300k (give or take a little).  After they reached the 10M download, they
> were moved to pro4_normal.  When that happened, I started another
> download, which took nearly all of the 1M available bandwidth (because
> it was priority1).  The video stream was choking a little, but was
> mostly working, the other downloads were the same (stop/go).  Once the
> "new" download reached it's 10M plateau, it was sharing the 1M pipe with
> the other 3 downloads and all got about 256k (the video was better).
> When the video and other 2 downloads reached the 20M plateau, they were
> moved (automatically) to the "bad" queues at priority1.  What that did
> to my downloads was this:
> 
> 1. The Prio1 queues in "normal" would allow me to surf like there was
> nothing else going on.
> 
> 2. My last download was getting 768k (the guarantee for "normal" queues)
> 
> 3. My "bad" queues (the stream and the first 2 downloads) were sharing
> the remaining 256k (guarantee for "bad" queues).
> 
> I was not specifically identifying netflix in my application, but it was
> being "caught" by the large download queues.  I am still working out a
> "best practices" approach to managing this traffic, but thought I would
> share what I have so far.  What do you think of my results so far? 
> 
> -- 

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