That's a good idea - find an IP only responsive on that network.  I think
DNS servers will respond to pings (but not DNS queries) off network.  Test
it with dig/ping.  I can tell you if it works from my network if you share
the IP.

Josh Luthman
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"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
--- Albert Einstein


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Jerry Richardson
<jrichard...@aircloud.com>wrote:

> just ping the DSL provider's DNS server.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Data Technology
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:46 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over
>
> Yes the dsl modem is handing out a dhcp address.  I figure I will have
> to ping way back upstream to check the connection vs just pinging the
> dhcp modem.
> I was thinking that if I just change the distance value to a higher
> value then I could leave the interface up and nat should use the route
> with the lowest distance value. (not tested yet)
> Then I could ping with a source address of the dsl interface and it
> should go out the dsl line even though the distance is set higher than
> the backup.  (not tested yet)
>
> Dennis Burgess wrote:
> > There are other things to also keep in mind when dealing with DHCP, i.e.
> > is your DHCP being handed out locally.  sSo if you have a DSL line is
> > the DSL modem handing this out?  if so, then watching that connection is
> > useless, you will have to do some policy based routing and checks to
> > verify that it is up and bring it down if it is not up.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> > WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> > WISPA Vendor Member
> > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
> > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
> > Author of "Learn RouterOS"
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:21 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over
> >
> > Lucky you, glad you could have 3.x everywhere!
> >
> > I could be wrong as it may just be my experience, but the command line
> > for
> > custom things is necessary as the GUI doesn't show everything.  I
> > started
> > with GUI and moved a lot to CLI as it seems easier/faster.  Hopefully
> > it's
> > simply a personal preference!
> >
> > There are places like wireless where the GUI is almost required as the
> > CLI
> > is difficult to navigate and may not even have some values.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > --- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Yeah, when I looked at the article you listed it clicked.  I don't use
> >> the command line except when I have to so I was a little off on the
> >> command to change the distance setting.
> >>
> >> I have version 4.3 so that should not be a problem.
> >> I've been using MT for several years but I have gotten past the 2.9.x.
> >> I think oldest is 3.25.
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>
> >>> First one is definitely not going to work.
> >>>
> >>> Second one is what you need =)
> >>>
> >>> Do keep in mind you need 3.11+.  If you're new to Mikrotik there is
> >>>
> >> little
> >>
> >>> reason to be concerned, but some users such as myself still have
> >>>
> > 2.9.50
> >
> >> or
> >>
> >>> 51 stuff!
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> >>> --- Albert Einstein
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com>
> >>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>>> Josh,
> >>>> That is what I was trying to do but I was trying to use "/ip route
> >>>>
> > set
> >
> >>>> ether1 distance=3" instead of "/ip dhcp-client set ether1
> >>>> default-route-distance=3".
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> LaRoy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> This might help you
> >>>>> http://stfunoo.be/?p=268
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I like using route distance since 3.11 DHCP can do it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It has worked very well for me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> >>>>> --- Albert Einstein
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com>
> >>>>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Sounds too easy :)  I'll give it a try.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>> LaRoy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Just change the nat to use the other public ip since your
> >>>>>>>
> > already
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> masquerading just change that rule to src-nat and set the public
> >>>>>>
> > ip to
> >
> >>>>>> src-nat to.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> /Eje
> >>>>>>> ------Original Message------
> >>>>>>> From: Data Technology
> >>>>>>> Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
> >>>>>>> ReplyTo: WISPA General List
> >>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over
> >>>>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2009 15:30
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am trying to configure an rb450 v4.3 to connect to 2 different
> >>>>>>> providers with dhcp using 1 as the primary and the other as a
> >>>>>>>
> > backup.
> >
> >>>>>>> I would like it to switch over to the backup if the primary
> >>>>>>>
> > service
> >
> >> is
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> down.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I want to nat local users to either service.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I assume I will need to use netwatch to check the servcie
> >>>>>>>
> >> availability
> >>
> >>>>>>> so I can check all the way thru the providers service and not
> >>>>>>>
> > just
> >
> >> the
> >>
> >>>>>>> local physical connection.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The question is what do I need to do when the primary goes down?
> >>>>>>> I thought I could just change the distance on the route but I
> >>>>>>>
> > found
> >
> >> out
> >>
> >>>>>>> it will not let you change the distance if the default route is
> >>>>>>>
> > set
> >
> >> by
> >>
> >>>>>>> the dhcp-client.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have looked at some of the examples on the wiki but they all
> >>>>>>>
> > use
> >
> >>>>>>> static ip address and I am wanting to use dhcp.
> >>>>>>> Anyone have any pointers?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> LaRoy McCann
> >>>>>>> Data Technology
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