Well........  that depends on who you talk to.  It's like overselling
bandwidth, everyone has their own limit.  I've seen AP's with almost 100 on
them but there were a lot of low use customers.  Check your graphs on the MT
and see what the long term history is for that AP.  Going to the AH boards
is a good move no matter how you look at it though.  Planning ahead is a
very good thing indeed!

Bob-


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Sectors

Well I just upgraded the RB from a 433 to a 433AH because I was seeing
processor hitting 60-80% during peak times. I am actually just planning
ahead because I keep hearing 30 as a magic number per AP.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors

Do you think you're hitting the limit of 802.11b/g or is it the lack of
horsepower on the AP's CPU?

Greg
On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote:

> On this same subject, would it be better to put up 3 individual AP's,
or
> would something like the Deliberant Quad work well if the issue is AP
> overload.  I have an AP that has 35 subscribers right now.  We've seen
a
> performance drop on it and are considering sectoring.  
> 
> Any thoughts on a dual (or quad) radio on a single board vs multiple
boards
> with single radios?
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
> Behalf Of Rick Harnish
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:28 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors
> 
> Mark,
> 
> If I remember right, you are in Missouri.  I was looking for the
strength of
> your omni.  We have had good success with 9 db omni's in the Indiana
> farmland.  When we need to sectorize but the market capacity is not
that
> high, we often go to (2) 180 Superpass 9 db sectors.  We have had good
luck
> with them over the years.  They improve our signal to existing clients
and
> enable affordable expansion in rural areas.  If the market will
justify 3
> sectors, I would go that way though.  
> 
> Many of our Wireless POPs are pico-cells and we try to limit our
salesmen to
> a 6 mile diameter around the tower. Although, we can often go farther,
we
> try to stay inside these guidelines when possible. To achieve a high
density
> of broadcast stations, many locations are needed.  Luckily, we are
well
> established in our area and have most of these sites already in
operation.
> Your mileage may vary given your topology and broadcast site density.
> 
> Rick Harnish
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>> Behalf Of Mark McElvy
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:51 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Sectors
>> 
>> I am running 2.4 HPOL It has taken about 1.5 yrs to grow this AP to
32
>> subs.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:37 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors
>> 
>> What frequency band and polarization?
>> 
>> I would also strongly consider your reasoning for moving from the
Omni
>> to
>> the sectors.  If it is because your AP is overloaded so you need to
>> offload
>> some, 3 AP's might be attractive for future proofing sakes.
>> 
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>> Behalf Of Mark McElvy
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors
>> 
>> 9db
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>> Behalf Of Rick Harnish
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors
>> 
>> What size omni are you using?
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors
>>> 
>>> That is the general suggestion - two 120s.  That one guy that does
>>> antenna design said so :)
>>> 
>>> You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the cost of
>> the
>>> extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient.
>>> 
>>> On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy <mmce...@accubak.com> wrote:
>>>> I need to sector a tower  that currently is an omni. I don't really
>>> want
>>>> to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard
>> they
>>>> don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any
>>>> comments?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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