It actually does take into account terrain data...
Let us know if you have any other questions or suggestions for
improvement.

-Matt

On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 13:29 -0700, 3-dB Networks wrote:
> One thing I have noticed... it does not take into account multipath, or
> really anything else dealing with the terrain.  The calculator is really a
> glorified free space loss calculator with a slick interface and the terrain
> profile.
> 
> It seems to function well... but you have to take into account terrain
> yourself :-)
> 
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:16 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> 
> Hey, ya know I used that thing a few times a year or so ago but forgot all
> about it.  Thanks for pointing me back to it!  Any tips on using it for
> non-lingo equipment?  Are the custom calculations fairly close to your true
> results?  Any significant fudge factor on it?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Michael Baird
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:23 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> 
> Been using this one for quick lookups, requires an account to be 
> established though.
> 
> http://www.ligowave.com/linkcalc/main.html
> 
> Regards
> Michael Baird
> > Yeah, I'd have to get quite a few more customers to pay for such a thing.
> I
> > can certainly see the value in it but value versus food......  Uh.... I
> > gotta eat.
> >
> > Someday, though.  Someday..........
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of RickG
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:42 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> >
> > As they say, you get what you pay for. For normal stuff, especially close
> > range, you can use a variety of software packages. But for a high dollar
> > tower, you want someone with the expertise and the software to give you
> > reliable results. -RickG
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Robert West
> > <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Me = Cheap
> >>
> >> RadioMobile = Free
> >>
> >> Wispmon = Yikes!
> >>
> >> It better be good but I think I'd need a few thousand customers before I
> >> didn't feel that price.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Brad Belton
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:38 PM
> >> To: 'WISPA General List'
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> >>
> >> A relatively nifty new monitoring service out there also has a great path
> >> profile tool built-in.  The person that is developing the product is a
> >>     
> > long
> >   
> >> time wireless operator, so he has a very good feel for what our industry
> >> needs.
> >>
> >> www.wispmon.com
> >>
> >> I've been a RadioMobile user for years now, but have found myself using
> >>     
> > the
> >   
> >> path profiler in wispmon more often than RadioMobile.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Brian Webster
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:21 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> >>
> >> $75 using 10 meter terrain data and 30 meter resolution tree clutter.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank You,
> >> Brian Webster
> >> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
> >> Cooperstown, NY 13326
> >> www.wirelessmapping.com
> >> 607-643-4055 Voice
> >> 607-435-3988 Mobile
> >> 208-692-1898 Fax
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> THANKS to EVERYONE for their input. I'll let you know what I decide.
> >>> Another
> >>> question: Normally I do my path analysis with Delorme but I'm not
> >>>       
> > feeling
> >   
> >>> that is good enough considering the cost of the project and some trees I
> >>> see
> >>> in the distance. Is anyone out there offering path analysis for a fair
> >>> rate?
> >>> -RickG
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>>> Rick:
> >>>>
> >>>> You have been getting some good advice here.  I am not a networking
> >>>> guru and have never played one on TV, but do know a thing or two about
> >>>>         
> >>> RF.
> >>>       
> >>>> It seems with your physical layout you may have an opportunity for
> >>>> some space diversity.  A simple link will probably serve you with 3
> >>>> nines or so.  If infrequent outages will sit OK with the user, then
> >>>> engineer a link with single radios.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you use some of the more inexpensive radio solutions as proffered
> >>>> here, you could put up two links with 20' to 30' of physical
> >>>> separation.  Or, one dish on the water tower, and two on the new
> >>>> tower.  The single one could be the AP and the other two remote ones
> >>>> stations.  You could use an MT router running OSPF with one having a
> >>>> higher cost than the other.  If one failed, the other would take over.
> >>>>
> >>>> My fear of a 20 mile link would be those atmospheric events we
> >>>> sometimes see -- tropospheric ducting.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would be curious what you come up with.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>> At 09:22 PM 11/30/2009, you wrote:
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear.
> >>>>>           
> >> Customer
> >>     
> >>> is
> >>>       
> >>>>> building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose
> >>>>>           
> >>> must
> >>>       
> >>>>> work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions?
> >>>>> -RickG
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
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