Nice. Thanks George. Was this just in a PTP environment or PTM also? -----Original Message----- From: George Morris [mailto:ghmor...@candlelight.ca] Sent: 04 December 2009 13:39 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
We really like beta3. Had some links running 90 days, and it was fast!! Here is the cheat sheet specifically for beta3. Be careful if you are running something else, the cheat sheet varied a lot. - No WDS - Short preamble - No Periodic calibration - Nstreme on, but CSMA not disabled - Nstreme best fit only - Play with power levels until best results. Seems pretty picky on this. - Be sure the RouterBoard firmware (not just RouterOS) is the correct revision ( /system routerboard print and /system routerboard upgrade) George -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:05 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Nice. Anyone out there know which of the beta releases seemed most stable? -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hogg [mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com] Sent: 04 December 2009 13:01 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link http://files.quicklinkwireless.com/mikrotik Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:26 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link We saw the same thing with Mikrotik + N. 4 AP's out there now running 4.1 (best of a bad bunch) in the hope the next release sorts some of the problems. I know this is a bit off topic but does anyone have the v4.0beta releases anywhere? -----Original Message----- From: George Morris [mailto:ghmor...@candlelight.ca] Sent: 01 December 2009 15:35 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link I think the Rockets are going to be great, but right now today the best software is a beta version of 5.1. That pretty much says it all. We have pulled all our MikroTik N links back out. 4.0beta3 was pretty good, but N wireless performance and stability took a real nosedive with the release version of 4.0-4.2 IMHO. We are back on XR-5s with either 20 or 40MHz channels for backhaul and get a rock-solid 30-60Mbits as a result. I don't see moving to anything else until MT resolves their N driver issues, plus releases the new version of Nstreme that is compatible with N cards, or UBNT completes their M series firmware tuning. Not sure which will happen first, but with the AH series RouterBoards and XR-5s we are sitting pretty in the meantime. PS We think the AH boards are worth the extra money if you have to run Torch or the Bandwidth Tester for troubleshooting. Both tools run much better on the bigger processors, and the cost differential to get this extra performance is minimal for a major backhaul. George -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link At first I was like "huh? " but thinking of the now and present, the Rockets are new and the longevity has yet to be tested. I have both UBNT and MT backhauls, love UBNT to no end but it's from the ease of use aspect. My UBNT needs to be taken care of from time to time, the MT is just put up and forgotten about. Sucks but that's how it is. Not sure why that is, maybe Ubiquiti seems to always be pushing the envelope so logically they'll hit snags. I'm a geek, I like the unknown so I put up with the snags but as Travis said in a roundabout way, if you want stability and something you don't want to worry about, go with the MT. I'd go one further with his list though and use the R52N cards. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link I guess if you don't need a reliable, stable product, this is the answer. However, I have MT backhaul links that have been up solid for over 3 years now. No ethernet issues, no heat issues, no firmware issues. Travis Microserv Jayson Baker wrote: (2) Rocket5M @ $90/ea (2) RocketDish @ $145/ea $470 On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Travis Johnson <mailto:t...@ida.net> <t...@ida.net> wrote: I would agree. Except the 411ah is overkill.... in my testing, the regular 411 shows as much throughput as the 411ah. So, here's the list: 2 x RB411 2 x PacWireless 2ft dishes with radomes 2 x PacWireless enclosures 2 x wireless cards (XR5 would be my choice) 2 x pigtails 2 x LMR jumpers 2 x 18v PoE Total cost would be less than $900 and would do 30Mbps in a 20mhz channel (or 15Mbps in a 10mhz channel). Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: If spectrum is available you can use a 411ah pair and get 30 megs in 20mhz. Like 500 bucks in gear... On 11/30/09, RickG <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com> <rgunder...@gmail.com> <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com> <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: Daniel, great questions! Throughput: As fast as possible :) Seriously, a couple of megs minimum. 10Mbps would be plenty. Dishes: As big as necessary. Naturally, on the tower I'll be limited by wind loading. The other end is a solid water tank but I imagine the water company wont like a 10' dish :) Budget: $10k including tower. Licensed or unlicensed. I'm open to either but my budget probably wont allow licensed. POE or?: No preference. Noise floor: On 2.4GHz, -97. On 5GHz, -94. Currently deploying: Ubiquiti CPE on Mikrotik AP's. Was Tranzeo's on WRAP/StarOS. Comfort level: I've got experience with almost everything mainstream. Thanks! -RickG On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:42 PM, 3-dB Networks <mailto:wi...@3-db.net> <wi...@3-db.net> <mailto:wi...@3-db.net> <wi...@3-db.net> wrote: Depends... What type of throughput do you need? What size dishes can you use? What is the budget? Licensed or Unlicensed? PoE or some other configuration? What does the noise floor look like? What type of equipment do you already primarily use (i.e. what will you be the most comfortable deploying). My recommendation would be based on the answer to all of those questions. Daniel White 3-dB Networkshttp://www.3dbnetworks.com -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 20 mile link Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose must work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions? -RickG ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ---- WISPA Wants You! 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