We have the makings of a product here.  No, not one that will generate cash
but a real bonafide product that someone could lose a lot of money
manufacturing and marketing.  It's the American way.  (Made in China, of
course)





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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!

If it works off batteries, you could easily make a "breakout" panel.  
Plug the cable into your coat.  Take the power to the coat.  Data pairs 
to another jack. Plug in the laptop.  Stay warm and configure away.

Robert West wrote:
> Thanks, Marlon.  You have any picture of you in all that?!
>
> Do they make a heated coat that can work off PoE?  Just askin'
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:28 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
>
> It's 10* here right now.  Gotta love it!
>
> First, LAYERS!!!!  If I know I'll be outside I start with a long sleeved 
> shirt.  Usually something like longjohns.
>
> I wear thick blue jeans.
>
> Next go the Carharts.  Not a pair of knockoffs.  I've got both, the
Carharts
>
> are the only way to go.  Much much warmer.
>
> If it's really cold, I've got a HUGE thick winter coat that I'll put over 
> the top of all of that.
>
> I wear good, fleece lined snow boots.  Rubber ones so they do NOT get wet.

> I do NOT tuck in the pants, they stay outside to keep the snow out.
>
> For gloves I have a couple of pairs.  One factory one my own version. 
> Basically they are both fairly thin dirtbiking or sports gloves.  Cut the 
> fingers out at the second knuckle.  The factory ones fit a bit tighter and

> are easier to work with.  On my own ones I leave the pinky and 3rd finger 
> on, can't do much with them when working with small nuts and bolts 
> anyway.....
>
> Use hand and foot warmers!  I buy them by the case every year (they don't 
> work as well the second year anyway, even though still sealed).  Loosely 
> tape a warmer on each wrist.  On the underneath where your arteries are
at. 
> The colder it is, the bigger the hand warmer you can use.  That will do 
> amazing things when it comes to keeping your hands warm!  Honest.
>
> Keep a large hand warmer in your front pants pockets.  That's also near an

> artery and will help keep your feet warm.  If there is room in your shoes,

> use foot warmers there too.  Modern technology can be quite helpful.
>
> I've thought of picking up some of those new heated coats, but I don't
trust
>
> anything with batteries to be there for me when it's really cold and/or
has 
> been sitting for a while.
>
> Oh yeah, sometimes I wear 2 or 3 pairs of socks (gotta use bigger shoes
when
>
> doing this and that can cause a safety issue when you don't wear them all
of
>
> the time).
>
> For a hat I have a fleece lined all cloth one that I can tie on.  It's got

> flaps that completely cover my ears.  If it gets really nasty I'll slip a 
> hand warmer or two in it as well.  I'd love to find an even thicker
version 
> of it but haven't come up with one yet.  I will also probably get a pull 
> over ski mask one day.  The kind you see crooks wear.  As I've gotten
older 
> it's harder to keep my skin from getting wind burnt when it's cold and 
> windy.
>
> Lastly but most importantly, LIMIT YOUR EXPOSURE!!!!!!!  If it's not
mission
>
> critical stay inside.  Or at least keep your shifts outside short until 
> things warm up.  When it gets below 10* out here I don't do installs.  The

> cat5 jackets crack at about 0* if you bend them much.  The drills and cars

> don't like to run well etc.  It's just much too hard on everything.  Out 
> here it usually warms up in a week or so, people hate it, but they 
> understand.  I also tend to not work when it gets really windy (ladders
blow
>
> over etc.).  I don't shut down for high heat, that can be more easily 
> managed with cold water and slow movement....
>
> Hope that helps,
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:07 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
>
>
>   
>> It's cold.  I spent all day and most of the night working on a tower and 
>> my
>> feet are frozen.  Time for new boots and the rest of the winter
>> gear..........  Anyone have winter gear that they swear by and not AT?
>>
>> I use steel toed boots (lesson learned the hard and painful way) and 
>> usually
>> buy whatever looks good, clothing wise, from TSC.  Everything is pretty 
>> much
>> worn out, time for crap to keep me warm.
>>
>> Ideas so that I don't freeze to death?
>>
>> And gloves!  Man, I never have found gloves I could wear AND use my hands

>> at
>> the same time.
>>
>> So as usual........  Who loves what and who hates what?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
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