Sorry, Mike. I think he's mine. He got out yesterday, haven't seen him since. Pees everywhere, rubber tape used to help but not anymore. See if he answers to the name "Jihad". If so I'll drop by and get him.
I've been losing that cat a lot. Thought Jihad would be a cool name for a cat until I found myself outside yelling for the cat and it got me "noticed". Lesson: Don't stand outside in a Jewish neighborhood yelling out your cats name over and over especially if the cats name is Jihad. I'm on a list now. I'm not sure what it means but I'm sure I'll find out. Bob- -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] The long day...final insult So, I get to the workshop this afternoon, and walk in. There's a cat on my chair. I have NO idea how he got in, other than he must have dashed through the door as I walked in or out. I specifically made sure he wasn't in the next to last time I walked in or out. And, of course, as soon as I kicked the heat on and it warmed up, the pungent aroma.... he'd messed under my rollaround desk chair... And I had rolled the chair through it to sit at my workstation. ( pounds head slowly against monitor. slowly, of course, I have a splitting headache from lack of sleep....) -------------------------------------------------- From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:02 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$%& day! > I've had a great experince over the past few years with StarOS/WRAP > combos. > They just work. With that said, I am slowly migrating to > Mikrotik/Routerboards because I like the control they offer. So far, they > just work as well. -RickG > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:39 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net < > jree...@18-30chat.net> wrote: > >> SShhh, don't tell him that, hes a StarOS guy =) >> >> Along the same, my primary site went down last night, cycling every >> 30~45seconds. -15F reported at the site this morning. RB433 is spec'd >> for -4F W T F >> >> Time to replace it with a few NS's and a RB450/750 in better temp >> controlled >> case. To bad they do not make a RB790 with POE =) >> >> >> jp wrote: >> > I don't think an rb14 can handle the power need of multiple XR cards. >> > >> > I'd suggest unless you have a good reason besides saving $100, either >> > use routerboards or stick to manufactured radio systems from a >> > reputable >> > and reliable manufacturer. >> > >> > You pay more money or give up a little flexibility, but it gives YOU >> > more time to gain customers, sleep, etc... I love tinkering as much as >> > the next guy, and I have a a variety of MT links, but I stick to >> > familiar and trusted components despite the alluring variety of parts >> > out there. Far Far outnumbering MT radios on my network are brand name >> > radios from folks like Alvarion, Trango, and others. If I built all my >> > radios and APs, I'd be out of business in a hurry as I'd be working >> > full >> > time tinkering instead of running an ISP, or hiring staff to build >> > radio equipment instead of installing and taking care of customers. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 03:49:59AM -0800, MDK wrote: >> >> It's 2:30 AM... >> >> >> >> I just drove up to the house, and walked VERY fast inside. After >> >> all, >> >> weather.com says that it's 12 degrees and an 8 MPH wind. In their >> head, >> >> maybe. Outside of the little valley I live in, the wind's more like >> 25 >> >> mph. There's no snow on the ground. >> >> >> >> I don't make a habit of staying up late, but last night, I was doing >> one of >> >> those "let's just have some fun" looking around sessions on EBAY. >> >> Next >> >> thing I knew, it was nearly 3AM. Without shutting anything down, I >> just >> >> crawled into bed. At 8:45 my cell phone rang... I didn't answer it, >> but I >> >> did get up. Looked at my computer and Peer Monitor says... nothing is >> >> connected. Now, I have had some issues with one of the dist points >> >> a >> few >> >> miles outside of town. It had randomly locked up 3 times last week. >> >> Each time, I thought I had found the problem and not worried about it. >> >> >> >> The first time for instance, it was extremely dense fog, and I found >> >> the >> >> ventilation fan running in the box. Thinking I had sucked in too >> >> much >> >> damp, I just shut it off and rebooted. The locked up system is a >> mini-itx >> >> board and RB 14 adapter card W/4 radios... >> >> >> >> Obviously, I was wrong. Something was wrong. It had run since >> Friday, >> >> but now it's Sun AM and PM says I've been off for 3 hours. It's died >> >> 2 >> >> other times since the fog incident, so... Houston, we have a >> >> problem... >> >> >> >> I quick yanked on some clothes and drove up the mountain to the site, >> used >> >> the step ladder to get to the box lid and looked in. Restarted and >> >> everything went off just fine. But, it's now done this several >> times. >> >> And that's not good or right. I look in the van. Spare mini-ITX >> board, >> >> licensed. Spare RB14, 2 spare radios, including an XR5, just like >> what's >> >> up there. Anyway, morning zips by, and I have an appointment in the >> >> afternoon to switch a family friend's computer out for her. So, I go >> to do >> >> that and she's not home. That's odd. I could have sworn she said >> she'd be >> >> there at 2... I wanted to be home, nice and warm and setting up the >> new >> >> board so I could change in in daylight tomorrow. >> >> >> >> So, I go to the workshop and do some stuff I've been putting off and >> >> ... >> >> fall asleep, waiting for an OS install to finish. When I wake up, >> >> it's >> >> after 5. Must have slept at least 15 min... Sheesh. So, I get up, >> drive >> >> over to house, start the project. 30 min later, my phone beeps. >> >> Text >> >> message... Site's down. ARRRGGH. >> >> >> >> 25 minute drive to the site and I reboot it. Go home, pull out the >> parts >> >> and start to assemble the whole thing. It goes down again . Drive >> back >> >> up, restart. This time, nothing will coax it into running. >> >> Finally, >> I >> >> pull everything out, and take it home. Now the phone's going nuts. >> >> I >> just >> >> put 60 customers down. I take it home, cause it's COLD out there on >> the >> >> hillside... and everything runs flawlessly. Just to be judicious, I >> grab a >> >> config backup off of it, 'cause it's changed lately and my last backup >> is a >> >> few weeks old. >> >> >> >> I haul it up the mountain, put it back in place... No run. >> >> So, I go home, grab the spare mini-itx, use the backup config and haul >> it up >> >> the mountain. >> >> >> >> Won't boot. Doesn't even beep. Power comes on, but no beep. >> >> >> >> Haul it down the mountain, back home (this is .7 miles of rocky >> >> pasture >> I >> >> drive through at idle in 1st gear, then 5 miles of paved road. Takes >> >> 20 >> min >> >> round trip) with all the parts. Runs flawlessly. Haul it back up >> the >> >> mountain, plug it in, boots, but locks 5 to 60 seconds after booting. >> >> >> >> Inspect EVERYTHING (it's dark, so had to do it all by flashlight) >> >> again. >> I >> >> see nothing. So, I grab the spare RB14, switch the radios over and >> plug it >> >> in. Boots. Lights flash. Fire up the laptop and no. It's not >> working. >> >> log in through ethernet port... NO RADIOS DETECTED. >> >> >> >> Put old RB14 back in, change one radio. Boots up. Logs in. all >> radios >> >> detect, data flowing to customers. >> >> >> >> Drive home. Try to thaw out. The wind up there is 25 mph and it >> >> cuts >> >> like a knife through you. Log in from home and watch everything, >> suddenly >> >> noticed one of the ap radios has no clients. Odd. Look at config, >> looks >> >> ok, reset radio, clients begin to associate. As they slowly hop on, >> I'm >> >> sitting there wondering why this... and just then, PM suddenly starts >> >> popping up red. Sure enough. System locked. >> >> >> >> Drive up the mountain, put in second spare radio in place of XR5 and >> boot. >> >> (Spare XR5, was used for 2 weeks in temp site). System boots and >> >> runs >> and >> >> ... No link to the XR5. Try new pigtail. Dead. How strange. >> It >> >> worked fine just 9 days ago, and it's been stored in the ALIX board it >> was >> >> installed and working in all this time. >> >> >> >> As I'm sitting and watching while sitting in the van, trying to stop >> >> shivering with the heat on full blast, It locks up again. I reboot. >> >> Everything comes up, I had put the old XR5 in, and everything starts >> >> working - apparently it wasn't the pigtail, just the replacement XR5 >> that >> >> had no output. Waited 15 min, still running. Go home. Look at >> >> Peer >> >> Monitor. All Green. Suddenly, a bunch of stuff goes red, and >> >> it's >> all >> >> far away. Call partner. He's a whole state away, forgot he wasn't >> coming >> >> back from his relatives until Mon night... But the red stuff's near >> him. >> >> As is the workshop. >> >> >> >> It's now almost 11 pm. The van has almost no gas left, the nearest >> open >> >> gas station is 23 miles away. So, I drive to the workshop, to find >> out >> >> why on earth the shop and some other stuff was red, and everything's >> fine >> >> when I get there. Finally decided that I must have removed a >> >> routing >> >> statement earlier that I needed instead of the right one. Started >> going up >> >> the chain, looking at all the routing. No routing errors located, >> >> but >> the >> >> very last device before the backhaul to the site that feeds my >> >> town.... >> >> shows no link. I call home, son verifies... Site's down again. >> >> >> >> Said a few angry outbursts... Looked around found another new RB14, >> put >> >> ALL new radios in it. Determine the new RB14 doesn't look anything >> >> like >> the >> >> old one. Determined which slots are numbered which, so I can know >> which >> >> pigtails go where... Go to gas station, get gas. Stop at Walmart >> >> on >> the >> >> way back, get REALLY WARM HAT for the head, and drive back to the >> mountain. >> >> Somewhere in there I stopped and got junk food to eat too. Hadn't >> >> had >> food >> >> since 1:30 PM. Was feeling faint. That took over an hour. >> >> >> >> Drive back up the mountain, remove old RB14 and old radios, put in >> >> new. >> >> System wont' start now. >> >> >> >> Pull board and everyting, look at it in the light. See no problem. >> Put >> >> it back in, plug everything in, then I found I had bumped the "off" >> switch >> >> on the #$%&^ power strip. Flip switch, plug in PS, lights come on. >> >> >> >> Since no XR9 is in use now, a pigtail is wrong, so I get a new piggy >> >> and >> >> replace the old one with a UFL/NFBulkhead... Piggy is cold and it >> >> takes >> >> about 30 tries to get the UFL connector on, even tried "warming" it >> >> with >> my >> >> hands. Err, my hand shaped chunks of ice. It takes 3 sessions to >> get >> >> the pigtail in place on the bulkhead end. It took several to get the >> >> UFL >> end >> >> on. I was able to stand outside just long enough to push the >> >> threaded >> end >> >> through the hole. Go sit in van. Get out, get nut properly >> >> threaded. >> >> Get back in van. Tighten nut with fingers. Can't find tools I >> >> had >> >> earlier. Get in van. Finally, get out of van with gloves on, and >> hand >> >> tighten the n connector. Get back in van. Can't feel my hand touch >> my >> >> face. My hand can't feel the difference betwene inside the glove, in >> front >> >> of the incredibly hot air coming out of the heater, or touching the >> >> cold >> >> glass window beside me. I could not even get 2 minutes outside before >> pain >> >> so intense from the cold wind drove me back inside. Drive home. >> >> >> >> EVERYTHING IS UP. Oh, wait. Several sites are going >> >> yellow/red/yellow/green/yellow/red repeat adnauseum... >> >> >> >> So, I start looking. Finally, discover that the 3.65 backhaul has >> >> 120 >> to >> >> 400 ms ping times across it. Even though it's passing just 40 to >> >> 100KB >> of >> >> data. Restart both ends. No help. Then, I noticed that quality >> on >> >> end is zilch, but the other end is running 18 to 36 speed, instead of >> 54. >> >> Lock back faster end to 36 and pings drop to 2-8 ms. Great. >> >> Another >> bad >> >> XR3... This one's up on a pole, about 18 feet off the ground, on top >> of a >> >> hill at a wind powered site. I think it'll wait until tomorrow. >> >> >> >> Oh, wait... I ##$%%^ forgot to close the danged gate, so I drove back >> >> up >> the >> >> mountain. Closed gate. Wind is 5 mph stronger AT LEAST and 2-4 >> degrees >> >> COLDER than it was last time I was up there. The moon is pretty. >> Stars >> >> are awesome. I can't stand outside to admire them. >> >> >> >> Ok, the system's been up for long enough. I'm going to bed. Now >> >> it's >> >> 3:30 and I can't keep my eyes open. I hope I'm forgiven if I turn >> >> off >> the >> >> cell phone and hope to sleep in.... And I still DON"T KNOW WHICH >> PARTS >> >> ARE GOOD OR BAD!!!!!!! >> >> >> >> I'm going to have nightmares. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >> >> WISPA Wants You! 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