No kidding!

It sure would be nice if it stopped, or those involved had the courtesy to
mark these toxic threads with a fresh subject line.

We've been through an audit with MikroTik gear, passed clear as a bell. My
understanding is that FCC rules are very similar to IC rules so modular
certs in the US should work just fine.

George


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear

Here we go again.....



-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:15 PM
To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear

Go ahead and live the dream then, but please don't homebuild your own gear
and deploy it in any of my markets. We prefer certified products.

On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:10 PM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote:

> You can use MikroTik and be legal.
>
> Anyone say any different either don't understand the rules or checked 
> the approved certs or is just spreading FUD.
>
> /Eje
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph <ralphli...@bsrg.org>
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:05:50
> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
> Cc: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear
>
> We have successfuly used ubiquiti nano and power stations as injection 
> radios for numerous tripod and cisco mesh systems. No problems.  Of 
> course I have used canopy for it too- no real difference in the end 
> performance.
>
> Would not use Mikrotik for any RF due to our desire to stay legal.
>
> On Dec 30, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Charles Wu <c...@cticonnect.com> wrote:
>
>> I find these comparisons of products like Ubiquiti / Mikrotik vs.
>> Motorola / WiMAX products to be somewhat unrealistic -- it seems to 
>> me that it's like comparing something that's hypothetical and "looks 
>> good on paper" and "hoping" that it will actually work
>>
>> Here's my question; sure, on paper, the new Ubiquiti WHATEVER will 
>> give me a Gazillion Mbps with Beamforming and everything for $10 -- 
>> but has anyone actually made this stuff work and scaled it into a 
>> profitable business?
>>
>> Many of the WISPs that I've talked to who gone down this path have 
>> had to upgrade / replace / retool their networks due to the fact that 
>> these systems don't scale
>>
>> The one WISP that I know using Ubiquiti / Mikrotik with several 
>> thousand customers is only using them as endpoints on a Bel-Air 
>> Network Mesh infrastructure that they spent almost $1 million 
>> building out
>>
>> It reminds me of the Asterisk vs. Broadsoft / Metaswitch VoIP debates 
>> from a couple of years back -- sure, Asterisk was "free"
>> while a Broadsoft platform had an entry cost of $250k, but I know of 
>> tons of Broadsoft providers who support tens of thousands of 
>> customers for hosted PBX, and the only guy I know doing it on 
>> Asterisk ended up spending over $500k hiring a custom programming 
>> team in Russia to rebuild the system for him from scratch (he was 
>> joking to me that in hindsight, it would've been cheaper and a lot 
>> easier to just buy a Broadsoft)
>>
>> I would like to be proven wrong here...so shoot =)
>>
>> -Charles
>>
>>
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