Darn right. I learned a long time ago you dont want everyone as a customer. I just fired a customer the other day. Thanks! -RickG
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Marlon K. Schafer <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote: > Right. We loose a few customers now and again because of it. But those > customers have a higher cost than income so what else does a guy do? > > There are two things you want to do when in business right? Turn a profit. > Make sure that your competitor doesn't. > > Off loading the high cost or high trouble customers does both. > > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 6:41 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] How to block p2p traffic in public Wi-Fi hotspot? > > > > OK, so your finding most wont or dont do it since they know they'll have > > to > > pay for the bandwidth? > > -RickG > > > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > > <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote: > > > >> By stopping it before it starts.... People here know what it'll do to > >> their > >> bill. > >> > >> Sometimes it happens anyway. Usually people don't know it's happening. > >> > >> When we catch someone in the act we call them as soon as we can and see > >> what > >> they are up to. If it's just a big download we let it go and people > just > >> have to understand that that's going to happen from time to time. Just > >> like > >> busy signals used to happen sometimes. > >> > >> If we can't get ahold of them to get them to stop or justify it, we > leave > >> a > >> message on the phone and block them till they call. > >> > >> Better to piss off one customer than 40... > >> > >> marlon > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> > >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:24 AM > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] How to block p2p traffic in public Wi-Fi hotspot? > >> > >> > >> > Marlon, as you know I've been a proponent of usage based billing since > >> > I've > >> > been in broadband. But, whether you bill for it or not, PTP still eats > >> > up > >> > the AP to the point it slows it down for everyone. How do you get > >> > around > >> > that? > >> > -RickG > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer > >> > <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hiya Roman, > >> >> > >> >> We bill per bit. That way we don't care what the customer is doing, > >> >> all > >> >> we're worried about is how much they uses. Run edonkey and you'll > get > >> an > >> >> extra bill. Download Netflix and you'll get an extra bill etc. > >> >> > >> >> MOST of the time we catch virus's for our customers. It's actually a > >> >> pretty > >> >> good sales tool. Netflix is changing that somewhat though. > >> >> marlon > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Roman" <consulttele...@gmail.com> > >> >> To: <wireless@wispa.org> > >> >> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 3:34 AM > >> >> Subject: [WISPA] How to block p2p traffic in public Wi-Fi hotspot? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Dear readers, > >> >> > > >> >> > Do you have any experience with successful blocking of P2P > (eDonkey, > >> >> > Torrents etc.) traffic in your wireless networks? > >> >> > > >> >> > Any user who uses torrent client at his PC can effectively consume > a > >> >> > lot > >> >> > of > >> >> > bandwidth of Wi-Fi access point, leaving other honest users with > >> >> > small > >> >> > portion of throughput. Port blocking does not help because nowadays > >> P2P > >> >> > clients use random ports, encryption and other means to hide > traffic > >> >> > patterns. I suppose that only one distinctive feature of such > >> >> > traffic > >> >> > exists: its ability to consume effective bandwidth. > >> >> > > >> >> > Do you happen to know or use any traffic shaping tools which can > >> >> > limit > >> >> > throughput per user? > >> >> > Thank you in advance for any thoghts, ideas etc... > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > WISPA Wants You! 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