That sounds like a great idea, but I would like to think the
WISP folks bathe more often than some of the people at the
hamfest...

Seriously, there are tons of things there that apply to HAM's,
the FCC already is in attendance - maybe it would be easier to
get some that handle WISPS there also if they already have
a presence.

In my outdoor booth I had new in the bag fall harnesses,
mounting stuff, LMR400, power supplies, and enough two
way radio stuff to load up a 21 foot enclosed trailer.  Big
solar panels, solar power inverters, etc.

Just down from me, 59 dollar flat panel monitors.

Across from him military surplus.

Lots of people with LMR cable.



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heaven knows we need them down here!
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show


>I wish it could be during Pizza but there isn't such a thing outside of my
> imagination.
>
> But seriously, I'd like to see it to where we could load up and go over to
> the HamVention as well.  A lot of us have people we talk to daily on the 
> Ham
> lists and I've seen many WISP operator vehicles in the parking lot.
>
> It's a perfect fit for us tower guys, we just don't power things with
> potatoes and banana peels or write 200 page papers on the correct way for
> long term RTV sealant storage.
>
> Josh, don't you guys provide the internet over at that HamVention?  I
> thought I saw that someplace..........
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:16 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>
> I would love for it to be during HAM.
>
> Right around the corner from me.
>
> On 2/3/10, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote:
>> Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells......
>>
>> I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of 
>> the
>> large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio.  Only so
> much
>> I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go across
>> town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same sort
> of
>> towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators.  No way would 
>> we
>> get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion. 
>> The
>> bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more
> people
>> without any more effort.  I'd certainly go out of my way for an event 
>> that
>> would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety.  A lot of us
> WISP
>> operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow.  Unless, of
>> course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we use.
>> :)
>>
>>
>> Anyway, just an idea.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>>
>> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your assumptions.
>>
>> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of
>> putting on a show and evaluating our options.   Before I started on that
>> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own
>> show.   I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some
>> potential as a fund raiser.
>>
>> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed to
>> put a show on properly.   IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and
>> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not scale
>> up to the potential of the show.   The market is quite different right
>> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in the
>> day.
>>
>> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus.   They are willing
>> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so
>> that both sides will benefit.   They don't know much about the WISP
>> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show
>> that our members would all like to go to.    They are going to do it on
>> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread
>> WISPAs message beyond our own little community.    Those are strong
>> positives.
>>
>> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to
>> the project.    Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is.    We
>> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't
>> really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements go
>> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person.   These guys have a
>> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done
>> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of doing
>> on our own.
>>
>> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so
>> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to
>> happen.   For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to
>> get a show put on.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
>>
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>> forwarding to the list.
>>>
>>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list rather
>>> than to the sender?  Thanks,
>>>
>>> Matt, understood.  I'd disagree with that plan of action though.  We 
>>> need
>>> our own show.  It should be a fund raiser for WISPA.
>>>
>>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show.  I
>>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event.  Lower cost, more
>> intimate
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the year.
>> It
>>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together.  We 
>>> know
>>> who the vendors and attendees would be.  And we know, basically, what
>> would
>>> need to be presented.
>>>
>>> The members want a show.  The vendors want a show.  Someone just has to
> DO
>> a
>>> show.
>>>
>>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes things.
>>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for here
>>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now.
>>>
>>> laters,
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <li...@manageisp.com>
>>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Marlon,
>>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts into
>>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both
>> sides
>>>> are happy with the performance of his show.
>>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit
>>>> sharing.   They put in the money and the manpower, they get the profit,
>> if
>>>> there is any.   Our goal in this is to build up our membership numbers
>> and
>>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out
>> about
>>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members.
>>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we
> will
>>
>>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show.
> Also,
>>
>>>> it should cost us little or no money.
>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How
> clear
>>
>>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our own
>> show
>>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end up
>>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show?  Where
>>>>> there is no profit to split?
>>>>> marlon ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com>
>>>>> To: <wispas...@wispa.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
>>>>>
>>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and
>>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to work
>>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with WISPA
> as
>>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show.
>>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out.   What has been discussed so 
>>>>>> far
>>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional 
>>>>>> efforts,
>>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband
>>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on what
>>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type discussions)
>>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show.   We will also be able to
>>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show.    There was
>>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to
>>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA before
>> the
>>>>>> show.
>>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> show.   There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will 
>>>>>> share
>>>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters.
>>>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we can
>> get
>>>>>> them worked out.
>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list
>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org
>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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