Orlando! We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines though. :oP
Dylan -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. A show in Vegas has become a cliché. Bob- -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: > Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great > rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) > > Randy > > > On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: >> *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my >> families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. >> There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close >> enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no >> available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited >> probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even >> find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. >> Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. >> Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental minivan >> on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car >> alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass >> suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the hour. >> Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car on >> a street and sleeping in it was out of the question. We circled the block >> parked at a different location at the Casino parking area and went back to >> sleep. >> >> The memories.. Might have to do that again but without the kids ;) >> >> / Eje >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:00 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> 10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in a >> room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. No >> available rooms for 50 miles. >> >> I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there and >> abandon the thing! LOL >> >> -B- >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Blake Bowers"<bbow...@mozarks.com> >> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:36:47 >> To:<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>; WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> I have never had a problem finding rooms at Dayton, usually with my >> normal reservations taking place 2-3 days before the show. Never. >> >> Now, the hamvention, like all the other hamfests, is no where near as packed >> >> as >> it was 10 years ago too. >> >> 4 years ago I did not even have reservations and found rooms at the first >> place I stopped at, a Drury. >> >> Don't take your organs to heaven, >> heaven knows we need them down here! >> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brian Webster"<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> >> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> >> >>> Not a bad idea, Dayton would be problematic as it has limited lodging in >>> the >>> area and the hams already book that capacity up long before the >>> convention. >>> There are other large regional hamfests that might be a good fit for your >>> idea however. The one problem that may arise from those is that the >>> locations in many cases won't be in areas where the airports have a lot of >>> competition so the WISP attendees would more than likely have to pay >>> higher >>> airfare. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank You, >>> Brian Webster >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on >>> Behalf Of Robert West >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:06 PM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> >>> Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells...... >>> >>> I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of the >>> large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio. Only so >>> much >>> I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go across >>> town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same sort >>> of >>> towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators. No way would we >>> get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion. The >>> bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more >>> people >>> without any more effort. I'd certainly go out of my way for an event that >>> would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety. A lot of us >>> WISP >>> operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow. Unless, of >>> course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we use. >>> :) >>> >>> >>> Anyway, just an idea. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your assumptions. >>> >>> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of >>> putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on that >>> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own >>> show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some >>> potential as a fund raiser. >>> >>> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed to >>> put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and >>> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not scale >>> up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right >>> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in the >>> day. >>> >>> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are willing >>> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so >>> that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP >>> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show >>> that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do it on >>> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread >>> WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong >>> positives. >>> >>> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to >>> the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. We >>> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't >>> really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements go >>> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have a >>> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done >>> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of doing >>> on our own. >>> >>> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so >>> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to >>> happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to >>> get a show put on. >>> >>> Matt Larsen >>> vistabeam.com >>> >>> >>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> >>>> forwarding to the list. >>>> >>>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list rather >>>> than to the sender? Thanks, >>>> >>>> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. We need >>>> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. >>>> >>>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show. I >>>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more >>>> >>> intimate >>> >>>> etc. >>>> >>>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the year. >>>> >>> It >>> >>>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. We know >>>> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, what >>>> >>> would >>> >>>> need to be presented. >>>> >>>> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just has to >>>> DO >>>> >>> a >>> >>>> show. >>>> >>>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes things. >>>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for here >>>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. >>>> >>>> laters, >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From:<li...@manageisp.com> >>>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer"<o...@odessaoffice.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Marlon, >>>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts into >>>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both >>>>> >>> sides >>> >>>>> are happy with the performance of his show. >>>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit >>>>> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the profit, >>>>> >>> if >>> >>>>> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership numbers >>>>> >>> and >>> >>>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out >>>>> >>> about >>> >>>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members. >>>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we >>>>> will >>>>> >>> >>>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. >>>>> Also, >>>>> >>> >>>>> it should cost us little or no money. >>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How >>>>>> clear >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our own >>>>>> >>> show >>> >>>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end up >>>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? Where >>>>>> there is no profit to split? >>>>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists"<li...@manageisp.com> >>>>>> To:<wispas...@wispa.org> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM >>>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and >>>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to work >>>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with WISPA >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. >>>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed so far >>>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional efforts, >>>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband >>>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on what >>>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type discussions) >>>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able to >>>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. There was >>>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to >>>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA before >>>>>>> >>> the >>> >>>>>>> show. >>>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in this >>>>>>> show. There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will share >>>>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters. >>>>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we can >>>>>>> >>> get >>> >>>>>>> them worked out. >>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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