You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP conference. Like, for WISP operators. I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse <dy...@corp.power1.com>wrote: > Orlando! > > We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive > area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines > though. :oP > > Dylan > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > Phoenix. Dry and warm. > > *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel > complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ > > I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the > zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the > show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. > A show in Vegas has become a cliché. > > Bob- > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Glenn Kelley > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting > > If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - > IMHO > > When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets > for > prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr > Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place > I > would like to take my family on vacation. > > Disney sounds better ;-) > > Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, > Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _________ > Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com > Email: gl...@hostmedic.com > Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: > > > Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great > > rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) > > > > Randy > > > > > > On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: > >> *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up > my > >> families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large > conference. > >> There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close > >> enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no > >> available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and > visited > >> probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't > even > >> find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. > >> Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. > >> Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental > minivan > >> on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the > car > >> alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass > >> suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the > hour. > >> Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car > on > >> a street and sleeping in it was out of the question. We circled the > block > >> parked at a different location at the Casino parking area and went back > to > >> sleep. > >> > >> The memories.. Might have to do that again but without the kids ;) > >> > >> / Eje > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >> Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net > >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:00 AM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > >> > >> 10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in > a > >> room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. > No > >> available rooms for 50 miles. > >> > >> I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there and > >> abandon the thing! LOL > >> > >> -B- > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: "Blake Bowers"<bbow...@mozarks.com> > >> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:36:47 > >> To:<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>; WISPA General List< > wireless@wispa.org> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > >> > >> I have never had a problem finding rooms at Dayton, usually with my > >> normal reservations taking place 2-3 days before the show. Never. > >> > >> Now, the hamvention, like all the other hamfests, is no where near as > packed > >> > >> as > >> it was 10 years ago too. > >> > >> 4 years ago I did not even have reservations and found rooms at the > first > >> place I stopped at, a Drury. > >> > >> Don't take your organs to heaven, > >> heaven knows we need them down here! > >> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Brian Webster"<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> > >> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:04 PM > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > >> > >> > >> > >>> Not a bad idea, Dayton would be problematic as it has limited lodging > in > >>> the > >>> area and the hams already book that capacity up long before the > >>> convention. > >>> There are other large regional hamfests that might be a good fit for > your > >>> idea however. The one problem that may arise from those is that the > >>> locations in many cases won't be in areas where the airports have a lot > of > >>> competition so the WISP attendees would more than likely have to pay > >>> higher > >>> airfare. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thank You, > >>> Brian Webster > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > >>> Behalf Of Robert West > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:06 PM > >>> To: 'WISPA General List' > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > >>> > >>> > >>> Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells...... > >>> > >>> I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of > the > >>> large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio. Only so > >>> much > >>> I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go > across > >>> town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same > sort > >>> of > >>> towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators. No way would > we > >>> get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion. > The > >>> bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more > >>> people > >>> without any more effort. I'd certainly go out of my way for an event > that > >>> would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety. A lot of us > >>> WISP > >>> operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow. Unless, > of > >>> course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we > use. > >>> :) > >>> > >>> > >>> Anyway, just an idea. > >>> > >>> Bob- > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > >>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM > >>> To: WISPA General List > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > >>> > >>> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your > assumptions. > >>> > >>> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of > >>> putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on > that > >>> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own > >>> show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some > >>> potential as a fund raiser. > >>> > >>> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed > to > >>> put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and > >>> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not > scale > >>> up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right > >>> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in > the > >>> day. > >>> > >>> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are > willing > >>> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so > >>> that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP > >>> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show > >>> that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do it on > >>> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread > >>> WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong > >>> positives. > >>> > >>> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to > >>> the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. We > >>> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't > >>> really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements > go > >>> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have a > >>> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done > >>> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of > doing > >>> on our own. > >>> > >>> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so > >>> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to > >>> happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to > >>> get a show put on. > >>> > >>> Matt Larsen > >>> vistabeam.com > >>> > >>> > >>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >>> > >>>> forwarding to the list. > >>>> > >>>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list > rather > >>>> than to the sender? Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. We > need > >>>> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. > >>>> > >>>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show. > I > >>>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more > >>>> > >>> intimate > >>> > >>>> etc. > >>>> > >>>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the > year. > >>>> > >>> It > >>> > >>>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. We > know > >>>> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, what > >>>> > >>> would > >>> > >>>> need to be presented. > >>>> > >>>> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just has > to > >>>> DO > >>>> > >>> a > >>> > >>>> show. > >>>> > >>>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes > things. > >>>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for > here > >>>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. > >>>> > >>>> laters, > >>>> marlon > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From:<li...@manageisp.com> > >>>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer"<o...@odessaoffice.com> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Marlon, > >>>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts > into > >>>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both > >>>>> > >>> sides > >>> > >>>>> are happy with the performance of his show. > >>>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit > >>>>> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the > profit, > >>>>> > >>> if > >>> > >>>>> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership > numbers > >>>>> > >>> and > >>> > >>>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out > >>>>> > >>> about > >>> > >>>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members. > >>>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we > >>>>> will > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. > >>>>> Also, > >>>>> > >>> > >>>>> it should cost us little or no money. > >>>>> Matt Larsen > >>>>> vistabeam.com > >>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How > >>>>>> clear > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our own > >>>>>> > >>> show > >>> > >>>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end > up > >>>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? Where > >>>>>> there is no profit to split? > >>>>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists"<li...@manageisp.com> > >>>>>> To:<wispas...@wispa.org> > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM > >>>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and > >>>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to > work > >>>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with > WISPA > >>>>>>> as > >>>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. > >>>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed so > far > >>>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional > efforts, > >>>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband > >>>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on what > >>>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type > discussions) > >>>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able to > >>>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. There > was > >>>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to > >>>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA > before > >>>>>>> > >>> the > >>> > >>>>>>> show. > >>>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in > this > >>>>>>> show. There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will > share > >>>>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters. > >>>>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we > can > >>>>>>> > >>> get > >>> > >>>>>>> them worked out. > >>>>>>> Matt Larsen > >>>>>>> vistabeam.com > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list > >>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org > >>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Wispashow mailing list > >>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org > >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wispashow mailing list > >>>> wispas...@wispa.org > >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>> ---- > >>> WISPA Wants You! 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